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2009 Vote: Roebling Road


Jim P.

How many events would you like to see at Roebling Road in 2009?  

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  1. 1. How many events would you like to see at Roebling Road in 2009?

    • three (3) events
      26
    • one (1) event
      26
    • two (2) events
      71
    • zero (0) events
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There are some people in this world who value more than the almighty dollar. If I am selling a product and am bashed every time my name is mentioned, I'm probably gonna tell that group to kick rocks. I would rather miss out on a few bucks than be dragged through the mud at every discussion.

 

 

 

(I would like to add that I have no side in this discussion, I just want to drive. I don't care where/when/etc.)

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:lol: they're not in that much demand, unless Jon K took all our old weekends

 

Weekend dates at any track in the southeast (except maybe Rockingham) are tough to come by. Roebling is as busy as any other track and can be choosy.

 

It is too bad the organization is "blacklisted" based on the vocal views of the smallest minority of any track on the poll list...but it is what it is....

 

At least we have the "technical" tracks of CMP and Barber still to compete on ...

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There are some people in this world who value more than the almighty dollar. If I am selling a product and am bashed every time my name is mentioned, I'm probably gonna tell that group to kick rocks. I would rather miss out on a few bucks than be dragged through the mud at every discussion.

 

 

 

(I would like to add that I have no side in this discussion, I just want to drive. I don't care where/when/etc.)

 

 

Of course the people that are being bashed don't necessarily have the final say either. As I understand it the on site management does not own the track. I have absolutely no idea how much say the on site management has in who rents the track when.

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Of course the people that are being bashed don't necessarily have the final say either. As I understand it the on site management does not own the track. I have absolutely no idea how much say the on site management has in who rents the track when.

 

True...but who knows what kind of comments management says to the owners about us.....namely our two youngest kids, Fc and Falcon. truck.gif

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Well damn. I was looking forward to running there next year.

 

 

I still am. I haven't ruled it out yet and won't until the final schedule comes out. And if for whatever reason NASA doesn't run there then I'll just find another group to run there with.

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Keith Andrews
:lol: they're not in that much demand, unless Jon K took all our old weekends

 

Weekend dates at any track in the southeast (except maybe Rockingham) are tough to come by. Roebling is as busy as any other track and can be choosy.

 

It is too bad the organization is "blacklisted" based on the vocal views of the smallest minority of any track on the poll list...but it is what it is....

 

At least we have the "technical" tracks of CMP and Barber still to compete on ...

 

I missed something here. First we're talking about how many times to run this track and now we can't run there at all?

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I will take as many SE events there as we can get.....

 

I will find a way to get there as many times as I can regardless of what group is there....

 

--Doug

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Do we know precisely what Roebling is pissed about?

 

I am not one to stir the pot but when I was there with Chin, comments by RRR staff stated they did not like NASA because of safety reasons. They went further to say that they deliberately take their time when a clean up is necessary.

 

I gotta tell you, a little diplomacy can go a long way toward solving issues like this. Personally, I like the track a lot and I have never had any problems with anyone there. To me, it would seem that whatever has transpired in the past be resolved so we can enjoy this venue without preconceived issues. Just my two cents. Forgive me if I have erred by stating my observations.

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Fred Crawford

I think it is a good track for HPDE folks.. fast and lots of room especially when you go behind the tower. But because of the low noise limit it rules lots of cars out. And of course the staff are not curtious to racers, maybe professional is a better word. Maybe Jimbo could book a De weekend and give lots of time to the HPDE group.... could be a fun weekend.

 

Fc

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hmmmm....

 

I found everyone at Roebling just as nice as they could be with smiling faces and all every time I have been there.

 

Roebling is a great place. Paddock areas are nice. Easy to watch the track during races. Track itself in great shape and lots of grip.

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hmmmm....

 

I found everyone at Roebling just as nice as they could be with smiling faces and all every time I have been there.

 

Roebling is a great place. Paddock areas are nice. Easy to watch the track during races. Track itself in great shape and lots of grip.

 

 

Thats nice............

 

 

Fc

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chuck schultz
low noise limit

One decibel below Barber's limit, and 9/10 of a decibel below SCCA's limit . . .

 

In another life, I've been known to operate a sound meter. I think the loudest cars I've ever recorded at Barber, Road Atlanta, or Roebling Road were anemic little 4-cylinders struggling for another half-horsepower. The big "ground-pounding" V-8 cars are more typically in the 92-95 decibel range.

 

When I'm on a corner station, I appreciate cars with mufflers, too. If it's 102.9 at the meter (50 feet from the track's edge,) it's probably 106 (twice as loud) at the corner station. That's plenty loud enough to be fast.

 

I know: "If it's too loud, you're too old." I'll accept that.

 

(Maybe I should uncork my 73 decibel Escort so the driver will hear me the next time I catch a 'Vette. . .)

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If it's 102.9 at the meter (50 feet from the track's edge,) it's probably 106 (twice as loud) at the corner station. That's plenty loud enough to be fast.

 

 

 

(Maybe I should uncork my 73 decibel Escort so the driver will hear me the next time I catch a 'Vette. . .)

 

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If it's 102.9 at the meter (50 feet from the track's edge,) it's probably 106 (twice as loud) at the corner station. That's plenty loud enough to be fast.

 

 

 

(Maybe I should uncork my 73 decibel Escort so the driver will hear me the next time I catch a 'Vette. . .)

 

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just don't make your pass in the paddock...

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chuck schultz

I really did get held up by a C6 at Road Atlanta for a couple laps during a PDX. I figured he just had more to throw away than I did, and may have been on track for the first time. It's still a fun story to tell.

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I think it's a shame that Roebling management apparently "does not like" NASA.

 

I think it's a shame that Roebling management apparently made an open statement such as, "we do not have room in our schedule for NASA".

 

I think it's a shame that some members of NASA and/or this discussion board cannot find it in their heart to stifle a comment that could affect many when their "beef" is with one person...even two, etc.

 

My lord, I've been to Roebling probably 20 times over the last 7 years...it was the first road course where I participated in a DE, with PCA Florida Crown Region. that track will always hold a special place in my "on track memories log" and I have yet to recall having an issue there aside from Richard asking me to put away a dirt bike we had. My bad, I wasn't pissed, nor did I pop off to him...no issues, the signs had been posted and plainly stated the track rules with regards to offroad vehicles and I chose to ignore it.

 

Could I have thrown a fit and claimed that he was an A-hole?? ...well yes, but what would that have gained me?

 

If your car peaks the sound meter at 102.5 then there is an issue, plain and simple. That track was built out "in the sticks" years before houses were around. The more civilization that crept near the track, the more rules and regulations (sound levels) were devised.

 

If you ask me, THAT SUCKS...and it DOES piss me off!!

 

I live in Va. Beach...years before we were a "booming" town, Oceana Naval Air Station was built/developed. Now we have a bunch of pussy-ass whiners going door to door, trying to get residents to sign a petition that we don't like jet noise. I told them to F___ off and demanded they get off my property...prior to that I asked how long they had lived in the neighborhood...out of the three, ONE had lived there for over a year! ...the planes were likely flying over when they looked at the house.

 

My point?? Roebling doesn't make the rules with regards to decibel limits...for every 3db you are over the sound limit, that's TWICE AS LOUD as the limit!! If you're 6db over, you are THREE TIMES the sound limit.

 

Roebling enforces the sound limit because I would imagine that Pooler City Council is on their ass about it. I know the Fire Marshall used to require having a fire extinguisher standing by per vehicle - not unreasonable, as it IS the hot ass and sometimes DRY South...another rule NOT made by Roebling, but it behooves them to enforce it. I haven't been to Roebling for a few years, so I'm not sure if they still have that rule.

 

SO, for those of you who feel that someone involved with Roebling Roads Staff has been an "A-hole" to you, try working it out with them or keeping it to yourself rather than posting it to the WWW via a website/discussion board OWNED by an organization that would like to rent the damn track a few times a year - OK??

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I agree,, Ive had them tell me what not to do,, and i did it.

 

like you said Roebling was the first place i drove on a open track and I will never forget it. I just hope we can get in for 09.

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