JSG1901 Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) We are in the process of trying to build a database of GTS track records for all the tracks we race on. Wouldn't it be nice to know you are The Man (or woMan) when it comes to a particular track? I spent several hours today poring through the Great Lakes region's last two years and have probably still missed a few. It is amazingly tedious to work through MyLaps.com to get information like this. So, we're crowd-sourcing the rest of it, which is a nice way of saying "letting you do the work." Below are all the best times I could find for the tracks GL has run at for the past two years. We, the GTS Directors, would really appreciate YOUR help building a complete list of all the times at all the tracks. If you can edit my posting and know of better lap times, please add them, or add new tracks. If you can't edit mine (I'm not clear on editing rights here), please add any personal bests you think might be records as responses to this post. Thanks! EDITED 14 April 2009, 8:27 PM SG Mid-Ohio (pro course) GTS1: Christian Cook, 1:42.576, 9/15/07 GTS2: Jim Child, 1:39.040, 8/18/07 GTS3: Randy Mueller, 1:33.694, 9/16/07 GTS4: Ryan Osiecki, 1:32.846, 9/13/08 GTS5: Charles Stickley, 1:30:945, 9/16/07 Mid-Ohio (club course) GTS1: Kevin Gibson, 1:45.468, 4/11/09 GTS2: Scott Good, 1:40.381, 4/11/09 GTS3: Korey Deason, 1:38.742, 4/12/09 GTS4: Chris Streit, 1:38.294, 8/13/06 GTS5: Scott Holley, 1:34.679, 7/9/06 GTSU: Norm Goldrich, 1:31.665, 8/13/06 Putnam Park GTS1: Christian Cook 1:23.625, 10/08/06 GTS2: Scott Good, 1:19.306, 10/11/08 GTS3: Sean Tillinghast, 1:16.038, 5/17/08 GTS4: Chris Streit, 1:17.066, 5/19/07 GTS5: GTSU: Mark Siggelkow, 1:20.570, 5/17/08 Grattan GTS1: Christian Cook, 1:34.396, 6/6/07 GTS2: Enzo Campagnolo, 1:29.985, 6/8/08 GTS3: Sacha Clark, 1:29.049, 6/7/07 GTS4: Chris Streit, 1:27.272, 6/8/08 GTS5: GTSU: Road America GTS1: Adam Cunningham, 2:51.215, 8/4/08 GTS2: Jeff Phillips, 2:40.692, 8/4/07 GTS3: Alan Kossof, 2:34.711, 8/4/07 GTS4: Ryan Osiecki, 2:26.920, 8/2/08 GTS5: GTSU: Chris Orr, 2:28.276, 8/2/07 Autobahn (full course) GTS1: Dennis Hiffman, 2:47.855, 10/8/07 GTS2: Chris Fries, Sr, 3:02.273, 10/13/08 GTS3: Alan Kossof, 2:43.416, 10/13/08 GTS4: Chris Streit, 2:41.463, 10/8/07 GTS5: GTSU: Autobahn (south course) GTS1: Adam Cunningham, 1:45.534, 7/22/06 GTS2: Jim Peterson, 1:39.944, 7/20/08 GTS3: Ryan Osiecki, 1:34.460, 7/21/07 GTS4: Chris Orr, 1:31.524, 7/22/06 GTS5: Craig Friesinger, 1:37.927, 7/22/06 GTSU: Gateway GTS1: Pete Knese, 1:21.038, 4/26/08 GTS2: Damon Peak, 1:11.853, 4/27/08 GTS3: Vincent Ko, 1:10.869, 4/26/08 GTS4: Chris Streit, 1:09.972, 4/27/08 GTS5: GTSU: VIR GTS1: GTS2: Jeff Curtis, 2:12.916, 3/08 GTS3: Chip Stabler, 2:09.232, 3/31/07 GTS4: Derek Schwarz, 2:08.135, 7/26/08 GTS5: Gennady Soykher, 2:03.697, 7/26/08 GTSU: Summit Point (main) GTS1: Jason Fairfax, 1:33.254, 9/24/05 GTS2: Jeff Curtis, 1:23.562, 10/14/07 GTS3: Eric Wong, 1:21.515, 8/23/08 GTS4: Derek Schwarz, 1:18.190, 10/13/07 GTS5: Raphael Maurrasse, 1:17.341, 6/22/08 GTSU: Barber Motorsports Park GTS1: Jim Pantas, 1:54.902 GTS2: Chuck Baader, 1:47.019 GTS3: Mike Moore 1:43.261 GTS4: John Haas, 1:39.970 GTS5: Fred Crawford 1:43.996 Beaverun GTS1: Christian Cook 1:09.144, 6/11/06 GTS2: Jim Child 1:06.372, 6/11/06 GTS3: Sacha Clark 1:03.994, 6/11/06 GTS4: Tim Rooney 1:03.497, 9/03/05 GTS5: Ed Baus 1:01.734, 6/11/06 GTSU: John Beaver (!!) 1:04.611, 6/12/05 Gingerman GTS1: Christian Cook 1:40.266, 7/16/05 GTS2: Tristan Whitehead 1:37.428, 7/16/05 GTS3: Joseph Fawsitt 1:37.280, 7/16/05 GTS4: Alex Lipowich 1:35.196, 7/17/05 GTS5: Joe Magalotti 1:35.924, 7/16/05 GTSU: Waterford Hills GTS1: Christian Cook 1:19.316, 8/14/05 GTS2: Jeff Mishtawy 1:18.472, 8/14/05 GTS3: Sacha Clark 1:17.737, 8/14/05 GTS4: Tim Rooney 1:18.264, 8/13/05 GTS5: Tony Armstrong 1:16.718, 8/14/05 GTSU: Carolina Motorsports Park GTSU 1:51.692 5/6/2006 C. Canada Porsche 911 GTS1 1:58.534 5/6/2006 D. Deweese BMW 325i GTS2 1:48.778 5/3/2008 Jeff Curtis Porsche 911 GTS3 1:46.312 5/4/2008 Drew Ewing BMW M3 GTS4 1:45.522 5/4/2008 Patrick Drinnen Porsche 911 GTS5 1:39.936 5/4/2008 Forrest Bowen Porsche GT3 Cup Edited April 15, 2009 by Guest Quote
FandangoDrew Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 Do records have to be set during a race? Quote
RSCoupe Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 I would think any "officially timed" session (qualifying, race) should count. Quote
JSG1901 Posted February 1, 2009 Author Posted February 1, 2009 I think that's right. It should probably not include practice although, to be honest, I looked through all the practice sessions, too, to compile the list above. It didn't occur to me that I probably shouldn't have done that until after I'd finished. It's possible there is a practice-session time in there somewhere but I'm not going to spend another several hours looking through MyLaps to figure it out. Sorry. So. Qualifying or Race times should count. Quote
Damon in STL Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 Here are two more tracks (or configurations) Autobahn (South) GTS1: Adam Cunningham 1:45.534 07/22/06 GTS2: Damon Peak e30 M3 1:40.218 07/20/08 GTS3: Ryan Osiecki 1:34.460 07/21/07 GTS4: Chris Orr 1:31.524 07/22/06 GTS5: Craig Friesinger 1:37.927 07/22/06 GTSU: Gateway International Raceway GTS1: Pete Knese e30 1:21.038 04/26/08 GTS2: Damon Peak e30 M3 1:11.853 04/27/08 GTS3: Vince Ko e36 M3 1:10.869 04/27/08 GTS4: Chris Streit 911 1:09.972 04/27/08 GTS5: GTSU: Typically track records only come from race times. Damon in STL Quote
dmwhite Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 I think that's right. It should probably not include practice although, to be honest, I looked through all the practice sessions, too, to compile the list above. It didn't occur to me that I probably shouldn't have done that until after I'd finished. It's possible there is a practice-session time in there somewhere but I'm not going to spend another several hours looking through MyLaps to figure it out. Sorry. So. Qualifying or Race times should count. from nasa ccr 21.7 Lap RecordA lap record will only become official when the NASA office publishes it with as the “Official Lap Record.” A lap record will only be valid when set during a race. A lap record set with a vehicle that has been found illegal in impound for that race, will not stand. Quote
dmwhite Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 Mid-Ohio (pro course) GTS3: Randy Mueller 1:33.694 GTS5: Charles Stickley 1:30.945 http://www.mylaps.com/results/showrun.jsp?id=661425&perclass=1 there might be some other records from the 07 championships as well... also pretty sure that the mid atlantic region already has a list of track records and i saw recently that the southeast region was working on compiling a list for their tracks Quote
scottbm3 Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 I was chcking at the same time as Dave, but i'm on dial up at the moment so it took a while... I knew that Randy ran his 133.694 at Nationals in '07. As Dave said there may be some other Mid-O class records from '07 as the track seemed to be a bit slower in '08. Also the Putnam Park GTS3 record would be Sean Tillinghast 116.068. My 115.5xx was from qualifying. -Scott B. Quote
Members Eric W. Posted February 1, 2009 Members Posted February 1, 2009 Lap records are set in races as Dave pointed out. VIR: GTS2: Jeff Curtis: 2:14.369 (2/23/08) GTS3: Chip Stabler: 2:09.232 (3/31/07) GTS4: Derek Schwartz: 2:08.135 (7/26/08) GTS5: Gennady Soykher: 2:03.697 (7/26/08) GTS3@VIR should be easily broken this year... Summit Point - Main: GTS1: Jason Fairfax: 1:33.254 (9/24/05) GTS2: Jeff Curtis: 1:23.562 (10/14/07) GTS3: Eric Wong: 1:21.515 (8/23/08) GTS4: Derek Schwartz: 1:18.190 (10/13/07) GTS5: Raphael Maurrasse: 1:17.341 (6/22/08) Quote
JSG1901 Posted February 1, 2009 Author Posted February 1, 2009 OK...back to the drawing board...I know my 1:38 at Mid-Ohio was qualifying so I'll have to reset that. Wish I'd bothered to find out about only race times before I'd started I'll go back through all the races I went through before and see which of mine need adjusted. Scott...thanks for the Putnam number. Quote
Members Eric W. Posted February 2, 2009 Members Posted February 2, 2009 eric, what about vir-north?!?! hehe. We dont run north no more But if I were to list them... some dude in a Blue #275 M3 would have that record w/ a 1:40.543. Quote
JSG1901 Posted February 2, 2009 Author Posted February 2, 2009 I updated the list at the top of this posting with everything mentioned here so far (and what else I found when I went back and did my numbers again). If you have other tracks/times/dates, please send them along. Thanks everyone for your help on this. Quote
FlyingDog Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 eric, what about vir-north?!?! hehe. We dont run north no more With 4 VIR race events a season now, I hope we get to run Grand East once a year. 4+ miles, and more turns (based on VIR's naming... 29 turns). Quote
Members Eric W. Posted February 2, 2009 Members Posted February 2, 2009 eric, what about vir-north?!?! hehe. We dont run north no more With 4 VIR race events a season now, I hope we get to run Grand East once a year. 4+ miles, and more turns (based on VIR's naming... 29 turns). lol. That race would last all of about 5 laps. Quote
FlyingDog Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 With 4 VIR race events a season now, I hope we get to run Grand East once a year. 4+ miles, and more turns (based on VIR's naming... 29 turns). lol. That race would last all of about 5 laps. Good! Then you're less likely to lap me. Quote
Darrtracing Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 Scott, Here's some GTS1 updates: Mid-Ohio (pro course) GTS1: Christian Cook, 1:42.576, 9/15/07 Putnam Park GTS1: Alessan Pagani, 1:21.945, 10/08/06 Grattan GTS1: Christian Cook, 1:32.728, 6/10/07 Road America GTS1: Adam Cunningham, 2:46.910, 4/10/05 Summit Point (main) GTS1: Jason Fairfax, 1:31.730, 10/22/04 Quote
Darrtracing Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 Scott, Whoops, forgot to change and names (kind of important, in a shelfish way...) Here's some GTS1 updates: Mid-Ohio (pro course) GTS1: Christian Cook, 1:42.576, 9/15/07 Putnam Park GTS1: Christian Cook, 1:21.945, 10/08/06 Grattan GTS1: Christian Cook, 1:32.728, 6/10/07 Road America GTS1: Christian Cook, 2:46.910, 4/10/05 Summit Point (main) GTS1: Christian Cook, 1:31.730, 10/22/04 Quote
JSG1901 Posted February 3, 2009 Author Posted February 3, 2009 Scott, Whoops, forgot to change and names (kind of important, in a shelfish way...) Here's some GTS1 updates: Mid-Ohio (pro course) GTS1: Christian Cook, 1:42.576, 9/15/07 Putnam Park GTS1: Christian Cook, 1:21.945, 10/08/06 Grattan GTS1: Christian Cook, 1:32.728, 6/10/07 Road America GTS1: Christian Cook, 2:46.910, 4/10/05 Summit Point (main) GTS1: Christian Cook, 1:31.730, 10/22/04 Christian, Thanks for your help on this. After a little research: 1. Your Mid-Ohio number is right. I have updated the list on the first entry of this thread. 2. Your Putnam number was for qualifying (and, therefore, doesn't count) but your race time that same day (1:23.625) was faster than the previous best so I have updated that, as well. 3. According to MyLaps, on June 10, 2007 at Grattan you were racing in GTS2. The time you listed was your qualifying time but your race time that day was 1:33.237. That would be better than the currently-listed time for GTS1. If you were GTS1 and not GTS2, let me know (or fax me a time sheet if you still have it...614-457-8200) and I'll look into it. 4. MyLaps doesn't go back as far as '05 or '04. Are the Road America and Summit Point times you've listed for qualifying or races? Thanks! Quote
mikew968 Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 Scott: I would think there are "standard" rules for what qualifies as a record. I would think qualifing would count but what does scca or pca do? Mike Quote
Members Eric W. Posted February 5, 2009 Members Posted February 5, 2009 I think that's right. It should probably not include practice although, to be honest, I looked through all the practice sessions, too, to compile the list above. It didn't occur to me that I probably shouldn't have done that until after I'd finished. It's possible there is a practice-session time in there somewhere but I'm not going to spend another several hours looking through MyLaps to figure it out. Sorry. So. Qualifying or Race times should count. from nasa ccr 21.7 Lap RecordA lap record will only become official when the NASA office publishes it with as the “Official Lap Record.” A lap record will only be valid when set during a race. A lap record set with a vehicle that has been found illegal in impound for that race, will not stand. the "standard" is in the rulebook as Dave mentioned in Page1 of this thread. Quote
Jim Peterson Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 Scott, I was wondering if you would re-review the Autobahn South Course race on July 20 for GTS2. I believe I had the lap record at 1:39.944 during the race. Damon is very fast and did beat me comfortably after my brakes evaporated but I believe I had the race lap record. Thanks. Jim Peterson #92 GTS2 1993 BMW 325i Quote
Damon in STL Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 Scott, I was wondering if you would re-review the Autobahn South Course race on July 20 for GTS2. I believe I had the lap record at 1:39.944 during the race. Damon is very fast and did beat me comfortably after my brakes evaporated but I believe I had the race lap record. Thanks. Jim Peterson #92 GTS2 1993 BMW 325i Jim, I just back checked and you are correct! My mistake....sorry I missed that! Damon in STL p.s. What is your schedule looking like this coming year? It looks like I'll be racing only a handful of events again. Right now I'm going to try and make Putnam and Autobahn (south) for sure. And, I'm hoping to make the second Black Hawk event. Unfortunately, I've got conflicts with some of the other events. It was a blast running with you last year at Autobahn as you are very quick also! And, the good clean competition is a lot of fun! Quote
JSG1901 Posted February 5, 2009 Author Posted February 5, 2009 Scott, I was wondering if you would re-review the Autobahn South Course race on July 20 for GTS2. I believe I had the lap record at 1:39.944 during the race. Damon is very fast and did beat me comfortably after my brakes evaporated but I believe I had the race lap record. Thanks. Jim Peterson #92 GTS2 1993 BMW 325i Jim, This has been updated. Sounds like Damon was trying to get in a clean on-line pass Scott Quote
Jim Peterson Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 p.s. What is your schedule looking like this coming year? It looks like I'll be racing only a handful of events again. Right now I'm going to try and make Putnam and Autobahn (south) for sure. And, I'm hoping to make the second Black Hawk event. Unfortunately, I've got conflicts with some of the other events. It was a blast running with you last year at Autobahn as you are very quick also! And, the good clean competition is a lot of fun! Damon, I hope to see you again this year because you were fast, clean and fun to run with. However, I can only commit to one race weekend at a time due to the incredibly friendly economy we find ourselves in. I'll definitely be at Road America in late April and will definitely miss Putnam in May due to my brother-in-law's wedding. I hate when that happens but I gotta be there. After that, it's TBD. Jim Quote
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