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Thinking about trying NASA HPDE


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I was wondering if people out there can help me with a few questions I had. I currently have been doing a lot of FATTs at Summit Point. I bought a SCCA spec7 and am training for that. This is a SCCA car so first wasn't sure if that was a problem. It has a cage and harnesses already, but wasn't sure if what works for SCCA works for NASA events. I've been looking to get more track time and have told NASA runs great events. I was thinking of trying it out this April 25-26. I just want to make sure my car will be fine to run in these events. Any thoughts? Thanks.

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as long as you've got room for an instructor to ride along with you it'll be fine - there are plenty of people that run with both NASA, SCCA and/or a buncha other clubs

 

If you're talking about going to NASA-MA's Hyperfest event I'd pull the trigger on registering ASAP, that one fills up super fast

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HPDE has rules that are very close to FATT as far as car prep.

 

Download the info from NASA. You'll have a blast.

 

HPDE does fill up, so sign up as early as possible.

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If you are going to use a race car for HPDE, you will need to make sure the safety equipment that is installed meets the CCR specifications. What year is the last annual inspection in the logbook?

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If you are going to use a race car for HPDE, you will need to make sure the safety equipment that is installed meets the CCR specifications. What year is the last annual inspection in the logbook?

At what point does a car move from HPDE car, to race car? Where does a TT car fall into this, somewhere in the middle?

 

Inquiring minds want to know..

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If you are going to use a race car for HPDE, you will need to make sure the safety equipment that is installed meets the CCR specifications. What year is the last annual inspection in the logbook?

At what point does a car move from HPDE car, to race car? Where does a TT car fall into this, somewhere in the middle?

 

Inquiring minds want to know..

Bill,

 

the rule says if you change something from factory, then the change needs to meet the CCR.

 

Example is the installation of a race seat and harnesses....they must be installed according to the CCR for the racecars.

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If you are going to use a race car for HPDE, you will need to make sure the safety equipment that is installed meets the CCR specifications. What year is the last annual inspection in the logbook?

At what point does a car move from HPDE car, to race car? Where does a TT car fall into this, somewhere in the middle?

 

Inquiring minds want to know..

Bill,

 

the rule says if you change something from factory, then the change needs to meet the CCR.

 

Example is the installation of a race seat and harnesses....they must be installed according to the CCR for the racecars.

 

I see, and since the CCR seems to be pretty clear on what is required for HPDE vs. W2W on mods, then we should be good. One example is the harness rules. For HPDE dates are of no concern as long as they are "in at least very good condition".

 

Thanks for the clarification.

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At what point does a car move from HPDE car, to race car?

 

When it has a current logbook.

 

Where does a TT car fall into this, somewhere in the middle?

 

A TT car is a HPDE car, unless it's a racecar (i.e. it has a current logbook.)

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If you are going to use a race car for HPDE, you will need to make sure the safety equipment that is installed meets the CCR specifications. What year is the last annual inspection in the logbook?

At what point does a car move from HPDE car, to race car? Where does a TT car fall into this, somewhere in the middle?

 

Inquiring minds want to know..

Bill,

 

the rule says if you change something from factory, then the change needs to meet the CCR.

 

Example is the installation of a race seat and harnesses....they must be installed according to the CCR for the racecars.

 

At what point does a car move from HPDE car, to race car?

 

When it has a current logbook.

 

Where does a TT car fall into this, somewhere in the middle?

 

A TT car is a HPDE car, unless it's a racecar (i.e. it has a current logbook.)

 

Well, seems we have a difference of opinion. I say we have you two have a smack down this weekend. We use the winners rules after that

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We're both right, we just answered the question differently.

 

Sean's point was that the safety stuff must meet the CCR whether it's a HPDE car or racecar. My point was that it doesn't become a racecar until it has a logbook. And presumably we both agree that if it's a racecar with an expired logbook then it's considered a HPDE car, and must only meet those rules.

 

Example: if it has a current logbook, whether it's used for racing or HPDE, it needs to have a current harness. But if it doesn't have a current logbook, it can only be used for HPDE, and can have an expired harness as long as that harness is in good condition.

 

I don't want Sean to smack me down

 

Jon

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We're both right, we just answered the question differently.

 

Sean's point was that the safety stuff must meet the CCR whether it's a HPDE car or racecar. My point was that it doesn't become a racecar until it has a logbook. And presumably we both agree that if it's a racecar with an expired logbook then it's considered a HPDE car, and must only meet those rules.

 

Example: if it has a current logbook, whether it's used for racing or HPDE, it needs to have a current harness. But if it doesn't have a current logbook, it can only be used for HPDE, and can have an expired harness as long as that harness is in good condition.

 

I don't want Sean to smack me down

 

Jon

 

Regardless, I want to see a smack down... please...

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How about a TT super lap battle in the E30 pace car instead of a smack down

Says the TT autoX director... Na, that won't be unfair at all.. (cheater)

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Hahaha I wish... Sean has been getting plenty of seat time in the last few years, and recently passed his TT check ride as a result. Meanwhile I'm way out of practice (lack of funds and/or too busy working to drive.) Plus that particular E30 understeers quite a bit from what I recall, which definitely doesn't mesh with my preferred driving style. Regardless, it would be quite fun to see if I could beat his fastest lap.

 

Back on topic - to the OP, will you be joining us at Summit this coming weekend?

 

Jon

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Hahaha I wish... Sean has been getting plenty of seat time in the last few years, and recently passed his TT check ride as a result. Meanwhile I'm way out of practice (lack of funds and/or too busy working to drive.) Plus that particular E30 understeers quite a bit from what I recall, which definitely doesn't mesh with my preferred driving style. Regardless, it would be quite fun to see if I could beat his fastest lap.

 

Back on topic - to the OP, will you be joining us at Summit this coming weekend?

 

Jon

We shall do it

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