Who uses racing seats + belts w/o rollover protection?

[Mac11]

Was wondering how many people, in all regions, use fixed back racing buckets, with harnesses and don't have rollover protection?

 

Can you please name your car, too?

 

thanks

 

 

Mac

[ddg]

Was wondering how many people, in all regions, use fixed back racing buckets, with harnesses and don't have rollover protection?

 

Can you please name your car, too?

 

thanks

 

 

Mac

 

I won't be anymore!

I started doing tech for NASA and have found my setup is dangerous.

I won't go back out untill I get a roll bar (weld in preferably) with a harness bar to mount the shoulder straps and mount a seat back brace. I'm also going to weld plates on the bottom side of the floor to reinforce the mounting points of the lap betls and submarine strap.

 

 

[sleeperlove]

I did for about a season, then I had a big off that probably should have rolled the car. I got a roll bar directly after that. I'm worth more than the cost of the safety equipment in the car, or at least so I think so it was a small price to pay. My car is a 02 Focus

[Ev]

The safety equipment is a system. Like kicking out the leg of a chair, sure you can sit on it, but one bobble and you fall over.

 

The seat, 5 point belts, and roll over protection should be used together, or not at all.

 

My opinion is based on 8 years of working in motorsports safety.. (EV, get it?)

[ddg]

The safety equipment is a system. Like kicking out the leg of a chair, sure you can sit on it, but one bobble and you fall over.

 

The seat, 5 point belts, and roll over protection should be used together, or not at all.

 

My opinion is based on 8 years of working in motorsports safety.. (EV, get it?)

 

I'm a safety convert!

I saw a dude w/a very nice Corvette break an OEM dr. side front wheel at Cal. Speedway, if it was the pass. side he would've hit the wall doing 165mph.

He has stock seats and belts, no rollbar.

Afterwards we took a look at the wheel, it turns out a couple of spokes had been cracked for some time (there was corrosion on 2 of the spokes where they broke).

I rode with this guy 3 weeks earlier @ Willow springs, there's 2 VERY fast right handers coming onto the main straight (stressing the dr. side where the bad wheel was), if it had broken then, we both could've been killed!

If that wasn't a "message" I don't know what is!!!

Edited April 20, 2009 by Guest

[jason]

Seats, belts, HANS. No rollbar. 2002 Z06.

[Ev]

Seats, belts, HANS. No rollbar. 2002 Z06.

 

Where to the belts attach?

[jason]

Seats, belts, HANS. No rollbar. 2002 Z06.

 

Where to the belts attach?

 

Harness bar specifically made for C5 Corvettes.

[Trevor57]

I did before I knew better. If you have a dedicated track car, without rollover protection you should rethink a few things.

[jason]

I've thought about it. Alot. I'd rather be strapped in tight than be flopping around. I don't buy they "you're gonna get crushed if you're sitting up right" mantra. Even in a roll-over, given the choice of 3pt or 5pt, I'll take the 5pt.

[Ev]

I've thought about it. Alot. I'd rather be strapped in tight than be flopping around. I don't buy they "you're gonna get crushed if you're sitting up right" mantra. Even in a roll-over, given the choice of 3pt or 5pt, I'll take the 5pt.

 

So, the thought of your spine becoming the roll bar doesn't bother you?

 

This has been discussed several times on this and other boards. It always boils down to, do what you want. You makes your choices, to pay the price. You could do everything possible to protect yourself, and still be the honoree at a memorial service. Only you can decide the level of protection you want and are willing to pay for.

 

I have my opinion of what works for me, what makes me happy. What is yours? Once you answer that question, then go with it. As long as it meets the rules of the playground you are playing in, then that's all thats necessary.

[Lucid Moments]

I've thought about it. Alot. I'd rather be strapped in tight than be flopping around. I don't buy they "you're gonna get crushed if you're sitting up right" mantra. Even in a roll-over, given the choice of 3pt or 5pt, I'll take the 5pt.

 

I have a roll bar in my car. It got added at the same time I added my seats and harnesses.

 

That said though, I actually agree with Jason on this. The vast majority of accidents that are seen in HPDE are not rollovers. While a rollover is certainly possible it is very rare. So you build the protection for the most likely incident.

 

Once again though, that being said. Jason, I'm curious as to your reason for not having a roll bar in a Corvette. Is it purely cost? A lot of people that run HPDE resist getting a roll bar because it makes any back seats you may have completely unusable. That is the biggest argument against them that I have heard anyway. That obviously isn't an issue in your Corvette though.

[jason]

Once again though, that being said. Jason, I'm curious as to your reason for not having a roll bar in a Corvette. Is it purely cost? A lot of people that run HPDE resist getting a roll bar because it makes any back seats you may have completely unusable. That is the biggest argument against them that I have heard anyway. That obviously isn't an issue in your Corvette though.

 

Cost and resaleability. This is as far as we are taking this car. When it comes time for a cage, I plan to sell this car and buy one already fully prepped for W2W. 3years and 1 month from now. But who is counting?

[laze1]

Seats, 6-point belts, HANS. custom harness bar No rollbar. 2006 350Z.

[Kanmer]

Seats, 6 pt harnesses, Harness bar. 2002 Corvette ZO6. And actually the Corvette has good built in rollover protection with the Halo. Granted, its not a cage but it is quite good.

 

Bob

[Aardwolf]

Same here, if there wasn't a steel halo I'd be quicker getting a cage in.

[Mac11]

The safety equipment is a system. Like kicking out the leg of a chair, sure you can sit on it, but one bobble and you fall over.

 

The seat, 5 point belts, and roll over protection should be used together, or not at all.

 

My opinion is based on 8 years of working in motorsports safety.. (EV, get it?)

 

 

This debate has been beaten to death on this forum and I do not want to rehash it. I understand this side of the argument and was not the point of the thread. I only want to know who is using what types of systems.

 

thank you.