Steven Rea Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 (edited) It was a very tough decision, but the car handled so great, I gave in to the temptation of wanting to see what it would be like with more power (like chevy ls-1 V8 power). The cars are great and the guys in the class are the best! Now I'm selling my champion and record holding spec car to support this new project. This car has had every performance modification done, with the exception of the chip, which includes: (all with 9 or less track days on them) shaved head koni shocks all around front spring perches (adjustable) 400# front springs ground control camber plates 30mm rear torsion bar delrin torsion plate bushings delrin or poly bushings throughout suspension manual rack which replaced power one lsd - phantom grip short fifth gear stainless steel brake lines Hawk Black pads Slotted rotors - front straight-pipe (no cat) with glass pack exhaust Additionally: new spring centered clutch all new engine seals replaced only 9 race-days ago (head gasket, cam-tower gasket, all front seals, oil pan gasket, all bottom seals) new timing belt new rod bearings new low temp fan switch new low temp thermostat new front tie rod linkage (incl. ends) mobil1 15/50w used always 6pt. custom weld-in cage with nascar door on driver's side and an X on passenger - seat back brace Ultrashield Rally Sport aluminum seat Ultrashield - top of the line padded harnesses (they're much more comfortable when strapped in) Momo steering wheel see car# 50 for a photo at Joe's site: http://members.rennlist.com/m758/DriverListing.htm This car holds the Streets of Willow Track Record (clockwise) at 1:16.9 , on its first day driven in that direction. With it's proven track results and full performance set-up, its new owner can know that they have the car necessary to run at the front...which leaves it up to the driver. Please email serious offers to me at [email protected] . I will be out of the country from the 16th until the 31st, but will try to check my email during that time. While I'm away, I will still honor the first person with whom we agree on a price and who commits to buying it. It was such a hard decision, but I'll still be out there with you guys, and wish the class the best of luck in 2005. Steve [/img] Edited December 20, 2004 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec-944#70 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Dude!! You knew the only way you were going to beat was more power!! Sounds like a fun project!! When will it be done? Some people just have to be different. I love the sounds from V8's. Have fun on vacation and we'll see ya when you get back!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutinCA Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutinCA Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 But I didn't get a chance to whoop you yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfoley Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 What's wrong with having two race cars? You can race with us and get your high hp fix too . For anyone who may be interested, I'm firmly committed to 2005 and will be doing as many events as I possibly can. So if it's about seat time ... look out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Rea Posted December 19, 2004 Author Share Posted December 19, 2004 haha, yep Eric and Dylan, you know I had to run while I could, before I get embarassed out there by you fellas. While it would be very cool to have a couple race cars, resources need to go to the v8 project to get it running at an acceptable track level for me. Anyways, no space to store a couple cars, although the v8 could be a cool street cruiser!} Well, talk to you in a few... s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutinCA Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Who are you going to race with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec-944#70 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 EX class!! He's gonna try and chase down Steve Goldman and Johnny Pag!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Rea Posted December 20, 2004 Author Share Posted December 20, 2004 Who are you going to race with? whoever the hell I can . My buddy Keith will have a fresh 3.8l in his 993 cup car putting out a similar horsepower as the stock ls-1 I believe...maybe a little less. While we aren{t in the same class, I am sure we can have some good fun out there. I am interested in seeing how the 944 compares, when given similar, normally aspirated power as the 911. I am going to be as considerate as possible about class racing, but the guys pretty much say that unless it is very obvious, such as a v3 battle, that you dont really have time to think about it, and race whoever{s out there. I am going to talk with Steve Goldman, to ask him how it has been working out for him in ex...must be ok, as he is always there. Still...I guess I just have that gene in me that is a bit of a renegade...oh well, it will certainly be a blast!! Now, just find me a buyer for my spec baby...it is proven to be fast and I need the dough for my new baby. s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Comeau Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n wright Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 So, you're putting the V-8 in a 944 chassis? That's what I'm reading. Is that correct? I'm sure you've been told this before, but how about a 951. I just had a great weekend with my 951 racing big V-8's (Corvettes) and V-10's (Vipers). They had me coming out of the turns with their instant torque but I was right there everywhere else. Even the straights. The 944 T is excellent bang for the buck. And, when kept at a 2.5, 16-18 lbs boost, and stock internals they're pretty reliable. I know, I just spent a season and a half dealing with a 2.8 that was possessed. Good luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Comeau Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I'm with Neal on both points here. Tons of tried and true options for 951 package. ..and yes, the red car was possessed. But then after Neal exercised it, the demons were exorcised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Rea Posted December 24, 2004 Author Share Posted December 24, 2004 So, you're putting the V-8 in a 944 chassis? That's what I'm reading. Is that correct? I'm sure you've been told this before, but how about a 951. Good luck!! Hey Neil, yep that is correct and yep, I have sure heard it before, but ya see, Im a hard headed guy in some ways. In addition to that, while at the power levels of the stock ls-1 the 951 can easily match it, to go to the higher rwhp levels, I figure you just cant beat chevy for reliability and bang for the buck. While I am not planning on going there for a while, to get 600rwhp from a chevy is very possible, but from a 951 engine...well you get the point. Even 500rwhp from a 951 vs. a chevy...chevy wins for bang for the buck...so we will see. Who knows, maybe the chassis will have too many parts that just cant withstand that hp, making it not a good path to follow. We will see, and certainly have a lot of fun getting there. The spec car handled so well, that I am just dying to see how it handles with the NA horsepower of the ls-1. It is possible to lighten the front with fiberglass parts, but we may stiill see what kind of difference there is with the slight added weight with the stock front panels. I will miss the close competition and comraderie the most with the spec-944 guys, but I know that my friends will always be my friends, and hey, it-s still a bastard 944 water pumper! Steve ps - this 944 spec of mine is fast already, so whoever wants to jump in and simply rely on their driving skill to go fast, this is a great car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfoley Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 I have a '89 951 street car and I was thinking about more horse power a while ago. As I checked out different kits I was told that the 951 drive train would handle about 300-350 rwhp reliably. Have you looked into this yet? Good luck with your project and Merry Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec-944#70 Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Steve you'll always have us as your family. We may tease you though!! Especially if your not any faster!! All the extra weight may throw off the balance too much. I would hate to have you pass me on the straights only to have me sneak back by in the corners!! Het this could be fun. "I just had a V8!!!" I crack me up!! Merry Christmas, Hannikah, Kwansa or whatever, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n wright Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 Steve, I just saw an 86 944 with the 350 Chevy conversion for sale. It was in the 760 area code. I was browsing through Trader online. It was a great looking car with the turbo body. Might want to give that guy a call for some already tested R&D. Or, just buy his. I think he wanted 7500.00. R&D on a "special" project gets very 'spensive!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Rea Posted December 26, 2004 Author Share Posted December 26, 2004 Oh, there´s no doubt I´ll get a whole boat load of sh!t when you guys pass me! I am ready to soften the blow with a few rounds of beer though. Mark, I heard the tranny´s are pretty stout, and that it is the cv jonts that will go first. It seems that with the stock ls-1 power, of about 350 crank hp, it should be ok. The next step up, of the head&cams should net about 400-440rwhp, and we will see just how reliable the 944 system is then. I am planning on simply enjoying the heck out of it, and when the time comes to go for bigger power, I will be well prepared to upgrade the tranny and whatever parts to handle it reliably. With a fiberglass front end (fenders and nose), battery relocate to the rear and lexan windshield, I am hoping that this will help offset the added weight of the ls-1. However, at least the ls-1 is an all-aluminum block, so not as much weight to compensate for. We will see what my budget allows for such lightening. If I was dong the project by myself, I wouldn´t, as you mentioned, such r&d can become mighty pricey, but thankfully, Renegade Hybrids has already been producing the lt-1 kit for many years, and is doing all the installation & r&d, so I trust them. They are also excited about testing one of their kits in the rigors of track-only life and racing. We´ll likely be pretty close Neil, so it should be fun. Of course, as I get my rig more set-up (with a working generator and compressor), you fellas are always welcome to pit there...that is, as long as you don´t embarrass me too much out on the track! So please find one of your friends who wants to jump into the fun of spec-racing and let them know they can have this excellent car for much less than what was put into it and what they´d put into one. Take care, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Rea Posted January 2, 2005 Author Share Posted January 2, 2005 OK, I'm back from an awesome trip to Mexico and am ready to sell it now. The asking price is $12,750 . If you are seriously interested, feel free to call me at 310-913-0742. Take care, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Rea Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 Ok, once this rain lets up, some of these new guys will be anxious to hit the track. This car's got it all... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg f Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Been there, broke that! If you use a 350, you should buy either a 951 trans or better yet a 968 trans. The 944 N/A ring and pinion lasted us about 8 hard acceleration runs. Had 87k on it with frequent gear oil changes...bummer. I had the same issue with a 968 engine swap into a 924S. The R&P literally exploded after 3 months of street only operation. Greg F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Rea Posted January 19, 2005 Author Share Posted January 19, 2005 Thanks Greg...yep, we're using a turbo chassis, so we've got the turbo tranny already. s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Rea Posted January 26, 2005 Author Share Posted January 26, 2005 OK, the car's for sale on ebay now, with the auction ending this Friday, although I reserved the right to sell it off ebay to a private buyer. While there's also a possible buyer who's a nice guy in Texas looking for a track-only 944, I'd love to keep it in the local spec-944 family if possible. If you know someone who's interested, make me an offer and we'll work out a fair deal. Thanks, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Rea Posted February 4, 2005 Author Share Posted February 4, 2005 Getting anxious to allot this money to the new project... ...down to $12,000 s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Comeau Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Call up Alain Jamar...........I heard he was interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Rea Posted February 4, 2005 Author Share Posted February 4, 2005 Thanks Tim, I'll drop him a line and see. s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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