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ken o

The wife has agreed to trade in the mini van for an suv I can tow with on weekends. It might also cost me a Miata for her on weekends.

 

Looking at tow options. I am thinking of starting with an open trailer and either a Spec Miata (I can fit), Spec 944 (not that expensive), or and e36. I might move to an enclosed trailer at some point. SUV must fit in garage and be nicely appointed.

 

Vehicles:

Tahoe

Yukon

Nissan

Toyota

Jeep

Dodge

 

The Yukon looks the best at this point.

 

Feedback?

Thanks

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kbrew8991

GM = bailout mobiles, blech won't touch 'em. Would rather do a Ford.

Wouldn't touch the Nissan with a 20 foot pole after seeing how "well" they've treated some friends of mine that were Titan owners. Also has just about the least power and least tow rating of the lot.

And I'm still not convinced that Dodge has turned the quality corner yet either. Plus bailout = pass.

 

Tundra/Seqouia with the big 5.7 = win (if you can pay the fuel bill). Also has the biggest brakes of all of them (at least it did when I was shopping anyway). It won't get good mileage, even for a truck.. don't even try. Mine did handle the tow through the Rockies to Miller and back at 10mph over without batting an eye, and my car is about the weight of the cars you're looking to tow with an open trailer. Temp gauges (coolant, trans) didn't budge once warmed up, and the brakes were well in excess of anything I ever needed. I've had to tow a few times locally with the trailer brakes on the fritz (which will happen to you at some point) and that's when you'll really appreciate the braking advantage imho. Plus I just plain prefered the feel of the 'yota over what I drove when I was shopping (brakes, steering, controls, etc).

 

My parents are both pretty die hard Ford or Chevy people, and I'm 99% sure my Mom will be getting a Tundra for her next truck (currently has a '06ish C1500, same chassis/engine as Yukon).

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Cobra4B

I purchased an '08 Titan last fall... love this truck. The Nissans got a bad wrap becaue the earlier Titans had some nagging issues. My research showed that most everything was fixed for 2008+ so I limited my search to that or newer. The good thing is that the bad wrap depressed prices further than a combrable Ford/GM/Toyota product. The Armada basically a Titan SUV but it has IRS vs. a solid axle.

 

I got my truck for $16k! A comprable GM/Ford/Yota was over 20k most over 22k. Mine's a 2008 4x2 SE with 44k miles on it (at the time of purchase)

 

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obzezzed350

+1 on the Toyota 5.7L, very comfortable ride, you can load them up with options on the Limited models.

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TxEvo8

+2 on the Tundra 5.7l, I bought one earlier this year and have no problems towing my 3k lb evo. I also DD it and it is a VERY nice vehicle, plenty of passenger space. I get around 16.5mpg combined city/hwy, about 15mpg towing (usually all highway) and 18 mpg on the hwy (truck alone). You are welcome to take it for a spin this weekend if you like.

 

Jim

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WacoRacer

I bought a Nissan Armada for my wife and we both love it. It's been reliable and has all of the bells and whistles.

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sixace

Chalk me up as one of many shafted by Nissan NA. After raving over my Titan and recommending to many, I cannot ever recommend any Nissan product again. Hope ya'll have better luck.

 

Yes, earlier years had issues. Too bad Nissan says FU, not our problem..they will literally wait until forced to correct issues by recall when your life/safety becomes an issue, and then still try and get out of it..meh.

 

Over the years, I'd have to say the mfg's that have stood by their products I have purchased, and have done right by me when issues arose, have been BMW and VW. Wish they made a PU..

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bpanther

Go find a used pre-bailout Suburban. If you can find a 2500 with the 6L engine it will tow anything you have planned. You can get them with all kinds of bells and whistles. It's slightly longer than the Yukon, but this allows you to go 3/4 ton. The longer wheel base tends to tow better IMHO. Not sure how big your garage is, but ours fit with room to walk around the front.

 

Nice thing about an SUV vs a truck, you can keep everything locked inside and don't have to worry about tires/jacks/jugs/etc walking away when you run inside a restaurant for a bite to eat.

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hustler

If you're interested in a Jeep (like me) wait for the Fiat diesel engine, that engine is the only thing that will help me over the "bail out" line.

 

I'll pay good money to watch you fold yourself into an SM.

 

I also agree with BPanther on the 3/4 ton long Chevy. I pulled a lot in college when working for a vehical wholesaler, pulling all over the nation, and the long chevy is the way to go unless there is a Cummins to pick from.

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kbrew8991

If it will be tow only and if you're going to do a decent size enclosed trailer, then yes by all means get the bigger burlier 3/4 ton.

 

If you actually have to park anywhere in a parking garage, or city spaces, or will just plain be driving it everyday you'll hate it. You'll probably slightly hate the 1/2ton sized stuff too, but at least it is liveable and doable in those conditions...

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WacoRacer
If you're interested in a Jeep (like me) wait for the Fiat diesel engine, that engine is the only thing that will help me over the "bail out" line.

 

?!?!? More info please!

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hustler
If you're interested in a Jeep (like me) wait for the Fiat diesel engine, that engine is the only thing that will help me over the "bail out" line.

 

?!?!? More info please!

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/27/jeep-grand-cherokee-wrangler-unlimited-diesel-first-drive/

300lb/ft

30+mpg on the cruise

 

There may be an orange Wrangler in my future.

 

Edit:

I just read in a newer article (newer than the one I initially read) that it was pushed back to 2013.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/14/jeep-grand-cherokee-to-get-3-0l-diesel-v6-in-north-america-by-20/

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Sterling Doc

Toureg TDI makes a very nice DD, and is rated to tow 7,700lbs. I tow a small enclosed trailer (with a 944 Spec car in it) with my Audi Q7 (mechanical twin to the T-Reg), and it does well, though I wish they had the diesel when I bought mine. Big brakes are also nice. My Q7 shares brakes with a 911, so I can order Hawk Blues and DTC pads for it from the Tire Rack, were I crazy enough.

 

I did custom order my enclosed trailer to keep it light, and within my tow rating. A 'burban, or other 3/4 down truck does give you more options for trailers w/o going overweight...

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hustler
Toureg TDI makes a very nice DD, and is rated to tow 7,700lbs. I tow a small enclosed trailer (with a 944 Spec car in it) with my Audi Q7 (mechanical twin to the T-Reg), and it does well, though I wish they had the diesel when I bought mine. Big brakes are also nice. My Q7 shares brakes with a 911, so I can order Hawk Blues and DTC pads for it from the Tire Rack, were I crazy enough.

 

I did custom order my enclosed trailer to keep it light, and within my tow rating. A 'burban, or other 3/4 down truck does give you more options for trailers w/o going overweight...

They tow great, but can you keep it running for more than 2-weeks at a time?

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jerrytx

Im sorry but you've passed over too good of a vehicle not to say anything: F150 04+. Mine is a 4 door 4x4, yes I had it flashed and it runs on 93 octane but it tows the uhaul trailer and E46 M3 just fine anywhere I want to go. I avoid a bigger F250 (for now) and the expense of Diesel. The flash was worth about 20lb/ft of torque and it helps when your trying to stay in OD while towing, which I usually can.

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kbrew8991

the F150 was a distant 2nd in my book when I was shopping, but still well ahead of the others so I did go drive a few and tried to price a couple out. However the dealers I talked to did not want to deal on them, plus previous bad warranty service issues with my parent's previous vehicles at the local dealers pushed me away from them. Then I found a 1yr old 10k mi Tundra that was calling my name, esp at the price I got it for.

 

If the F150 Ecoboost V6 starts to show signs of long term longevity that could be an option though. Should get better mileage without dropping towing capacity too much. Did they also put that engine in any of their SUVs?

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ken o

OK, remember the part of this will be my wife's DD when not towing. She is not going to drive a pickup. Hench the nicely appointed requirement.

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kbrew8991

plan on sticking with an open trailer then - most of the nice new stuff just doesn't have the adequate excess safety margin type towing capacity for a small enclosed (imho)

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Cobra4B
the F150 was a distant 2nd in my book when I was shopping, but still well ahead of the others so I did go drive a few and tried to price a couple out. However the dealers I talked to did not want to deal on them, plus previous bad warranty service issues with my parent's previous vehicles at the local dealers pushed me away from them. Then I found a 1yr old 10k mi Tundra that was calling my name, esp at the price I got it for.

 

If the F150 Ecoboost V6 starts to show signs of long term longevity that could be an option though. Should get better mileage without dropping towing capacity too much. Did they also put that engine in any of their SUVs?

My father's '06 F-150 is a crew cab 4x4 w/ the 5.4 and tows his 24' enclosed just fine. He does have the tow package with 3.73 gears. That said, it's a dog compared to the power my Titan has, but at the end of the day it gets whre it needs to go safely. The newer F-150s are very promising... the engine lineup is killer. You can get the 5.0 w/ revised cams for low end torque, a powerful direct-injected V6, the ecoboost V6, or a big 6.2 gasser. The basic V6 is rated to tow up to 7000lbs and gets the same fuel economy of the eco-boost. The eco boost is nice because it will tow 10k lbs. The head to head tests towing a load are impressive as the TT torque curve allows it to walk to dog on the competition's comprable trucks.

 

My father's rig:

 

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kbrew8991

"just fine" crossing the Appalacians might not be "just fine" crossing the Rockies fwiw - terrain does vary

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Cobra4B
"just fine" crossing the Appalacians might not be "just fine" crossing the Rockies fwiw - terrain does vary

That is true... but for up and down the east coast it has no issues. Living out west and dealing with altitude a diesel would probably be in order.

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Charger

I've been towing a 22 foot enclosed trailer with my 1/2 ton suburban for years. Its got enough power and the soft suspension is adequate with a load leveling hitch. When not towing the 1/2 ton is much more comfy than the 3/4. The extra wheelbase of the suburban over the tahoe makes a big difference in stability. It wont cruise at 85 like some 3/4 ton diesel trucks, but you shouldnt tow at those speeds anyway! Its towed a full trailer from Miami to San Fran and back to Houston, just gotta take your time.

 

I would recommend ensuring your tow vehicle can pull an enclosed trailer. I know you're not thinking you'll have one soon...but you never know. Dont paint yourself into a corner

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Sterling Doc
Toureg TDI makes a very nice DD, and is rated to tow 7,700lbs. I tow a small enclosed trailer (with a 944 Spec car in it) with my Audi Q7 (mechanical twin to the T-Reg), and it does well, though I wish they had the diesel when I bought mine. Big brakes are also nice. My Q7 shares brakes with a 911, so I can order Hawk Blues and DTC pads for it from the Tire Rack, were I crazy enough.

 

I did custom order my enclosed trailer to keep it light, and within my tow rating. A 'burban, or other 3/4 down truck does give you more options for trailers w/o going overweight...

They tow great, but can you keep it running for more than 2-weeks at a time?

 

Just avoid the '04's...

 

I just turned 70K on the way home from Hallet yesterday with no mechanical issues, and only one electrical one so far. 13 hour tow from Hallet to Chicago area. On the way there went through some nasty winds - you know you're in trouble when you pass storm chaser vehicles pulled over on the side of the road. No stability issues, or sway, without any helper devices, but then it helps I'm only towing 18 feet of enclosed trailer. I ran it for over an hour wide open in 5th (6 speed trans) to keep up 60 into a brutal headwind - temps stayed good. MPG dropped from 12 to 8.3

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ken o

Looks like a 2011 Durango will tow 7,200 and make the wife happy. I can only do one of those two things.

 

Now time to start looking for a race car!

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kbrew8991

Stick with a basic open trailer and you'll be ok with that. If they have a tow package option that adds meaningful things like a transmission cooler, pre-wiring for brake controller, etc, I'd recommend it.

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