philstireservice Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 285/650R18 Toyo RS1 (new radial slick) $367.20 285/645R18 Hoosier R80/R100 $451.00 275/35R18 Hoosier A6/R6 $334 Toyo RS1 right out of the box faster than an A6. More consistent over a longer period of time. When they fall off the fall of to the likes of a R6. As fast as a Hoosier R80 and last longer for almost $100 less per tire. Good contingency also. hmmmmmmm....... Quote
KaiB Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 285/650R18 Toyo RS1 (new radial slick) $367.20285/645R18 Hoosier R80/R100 $451.00 275/35R18 Hoosier A6/R6 $334 Toyo RS1 right out of the box faster than an A6. More consistent over a longer period of time. When they fall off the fall of to the likes of a R6. As fast as a Hoosier R80 and last longer for almost $100 less per tire. Good contingency also. hmmmmmmm....... Data please. Car, setup, track, temps. All the normal stuff please. Can't just make blanket statements like this without some. Quote
philstireservice Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 285/650R18 Toyo RS1 (new radial slick) $367.20285/645R18 Hoosier R80/R100 $451.00 275/35R18 Hoosier A6/R6 $334 Toyo RS1 right out of the box faster than an A6. More consistent over a longer period of time. When they fall off the fall of to the likes of a R6. As fast as a Hoosier R80 and last longer for almost $100 less per tire. Good contingency also. hmmmmmmm....... Data please. Car, setup, track, temps. All the normal stuff please. Can't just make blanket statements like this without some. This is a general setup. Data here is from a newer Mustang and E46 BMW chassis. Road Atlanta, CMP and VIR. These are race setups. Tire pressure hot is 30-32 range. Quote
scottbm3 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 It's not a DOT tire, so the comparision to the A6/R6 doesn't really apply to most that run those. Especially in GTS where running a DOT vs Non DOT makes a big difference in weight and possible classing. -Scott B. Quote
UKRBMW Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 That is very general. I ran A6s and R80/100 setup on my GT3 and there was barely a 1 second difference at CMP - I'm guessing less at VIR and RA since they are both more forgiving than CMP. Any lap times to support this? Was the setup changed to accommodate slick vs DOT? Quote
philstireservice Posted June 22, 2012 Author Posted June 22, 2012 That is very general. I ran A6s and R80/100 setup on my GT3 and there was barely a 1 second difference at CMP - I'm guessing less at VIR and RA since they are both more forgiving than CMP. Any lap times to support this? Was the setup changed to accommodate slick vs DOT? yep...at CMP the Mustang did 1:39 on Pirelli's, 1:41 on R80's and A6's and 1:40 on the Toyo RS1. Corded the R80's and A6's within 4 sessions....Toyo's still had lot's of rubber - barely worn. Quote
philstireservice Posted June 22, 2012 Author Posted June 22, 2012 It's not a DOT tire, so the comparision to the A6/R6 doesn't really apply to most that run those. Especially in GTS where running a DOT vs Non DOT makes a big difference in weight and possible classing. -Scott B. I'm fully aware of the weight penalty/classing change with slicks, but if someone could work the system ( which many figure out how), a slick that lasts longer than an A6 and is faster than a Hoosier R80 could be the ticket.... sheeeesh guys, what a tough crowd. Quote
JSG1901 Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 sheeeesh guys, what a tough crowd. LOL...no kidding! I think it's really interesting the different tires that are starting to show up. While going to slicks would require a weight penalty for some people (like Mr. Berkowitz) whose cars are already down to the DOT tire minimum weights, we have quite a few others who can't get their cars that light for one reason or another and the option to weigh a little more and use a slightly faster tire has made for some really good racing this year. Thanks for sharing the data you have...it's certainly better than anybody else has at this point and you can bet there are plenty of drivers reading this and considering their options. Quote
scottbm3 Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 Didn't know that asking questions about a new tire with much less long term data(from users, not the company) than the others mentioned was a bad thing. Done any 45 minute tests back to back to actually simulate race conditions ? Just asking, not trying to start any arguments Oh and Mr. Good, I would not consider my car light..... -Scott B. Quote
JSG1901 Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 Oh and Mr. Good, I would not consider my car light..... I stand corrected! Quote
philstireservice Posted June 28, 2012 Author Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) Prices for RS1 in 245/40-17 please. There is no 245/40R17 RS1....the RS1 is full race slick not a DOT tire. Look for the RR in the future which will be the DOT tire. Edited August 24, 2012 by Guest Quote
ILIKETODRIVE Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Look for the RR1 in the future which will be the DOT tire. Off-topic question: Is this going to be an RA1 replacement or something between the RA1 and RS1? Quote
Sterling Doc Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Prices for RS1 in 245/40-17 please. There is no 245/40R17 RS1....the RS1 is full race slick not a DOT tire. Look for the RR1 in the future which will be the DOT tire. It's the pirate tire! The ARRR-ARRR-One . Quote
philstireservice Posted June 30, 2012 Author Posted June 30, 2012 Prices for RS1 in 245/40-17 please. There is no 245/40R17 RS1....the RS1 is full race slick not a DOT tire. Look for the RR1 in the future which will be the DOT tire. It's the pirate tire! The ARRR-ARRR-One . lol - cute Eric Quote
philstireservice Posted June 30, 2012 Author Posted June 30, 2012 (edited) Look for the RR1 in the future which will be the DOT tire. Off-topic question: Is this going to be an RA1 replacement or something between the RA1 and RS1? The RA-1 will be the rain tire. The RR could be the replacement for some classes in 2013. Edited August 24, 2012 by Guest Quote
ILIKETODRIVE Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Look for the RR1 in the future which will be the DOT tire. Off-topic question: Is this going to be an RA1 replacement or something between the RA1 and RS1? The RA-1 will be the rain tire. The RR1 could be the replacement for some classes in 2013. I like the sound of that...hopefully it becomes truth! Thanks! Quote
philstireservice Posted June 30, 2012 Author Posted June 30, 2012 Look for the RR1 in the future which will be the DOT tire. Off-topic question: Is this going to be an RA1 replacement or something between the RA1 and RS1? Yes, it will fit nicely between the two..... Quote
Sterling Doc Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 This is odd, Toyo has a tire they call the RR1 now, but it looks like this: Not the same tire Phil is talking about, but it's odd that they'd use that name (again). Quote
icemang17 Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Toyo had a test day at Thunderhill earlier this year.....the tires guys are RAVING about the RS1.....they say its faster than A6 but lasts like a RA1........ They figure 3 sets will finish the 25 this year!!!!! They sound tempting.....but my scrub pirellis are MUCH cheaper!!! I can live with the minus 1 second compared to new Quote
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