obzezzed350 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Any chance that the Nismo diff will be legal for 2013? I have a few guys that I talked to about builds, and they are all holding back partially because they dont want to buy the wavetrac. Obviously they can run a VLSD in the mean time, but just thought I would throw this out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraman95 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I know there has been alot of chatter on this. I know of atleast one person that went from a Wavetrac to a Carbonetic and refuses to go back. That was his biggest complaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laze1 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Carbonetic FTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraman95 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Carbonetic FTW I also hear a cooler is not required with them either... Have you run one in the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laze1 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Yep, had one in the Z car for 4 years of racing as a PTB car with NO ISSUES...just change the Diff Oil after each event and it is good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraman95 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 So you had a cooler with the Carbonetic? Did it ever overheat without one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laze1 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 No cooler on the Carbonetics diff...just change the fluid with Redline after every event...likely overkill but the oil turns black pretty quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esr Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 same here, I am going to track mine till I hear of no more problems, I imagine the brakes will be next, talking to the guys who ran the car in grand am cup back in the early 2000, the brembos would overheat. It is a shame that some guys will be buying brembos just to find out they are not the hot set up. We should get big brakes front and back and call it a day! Any chance that the Nismo diff will be legal for 2013? I have a few guys that I talked to about builds, and they are all holding back partially because they dont want to buy the wavetrac. Obviously they can run a VLSD in the mean time, but just thought I would throw this out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laze1 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 That is not likely to happen...all parts are Nissan or Nismo...that is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemac Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 same here, I am going to track mine till I hear of no more problems, I imagine the brakes will be next, talking to the guys who ran the car in grand am cup back in the early 2000, the brembos would overheat. It is a shame that some guys will be buying brembos just to find out they are not the hot set up. We should get big brakes front and back and call it a day! Any chance that the Nismo diff will be legal for 2013? I have a few guys that I talked to about builds, and they are all holding back partially because they dont want to buy the wavetrac. Obviously they can run a VLSD in the mean time, but just thought I would throw this out there. The Brembos are adequate. You just need to cool them properly, run the right fluid, and there are a few other tricks. I was pleasantly surprised at how well the Brembos held up compared to other "stock Brembo" configurations I have driven. That being said... we need another option for the Diffs. I was one of the cars affected by the wavetrac failure at Nationals. I put my oem diff back in to finish the season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laze1 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Did it Blow Up/melt/cook or just go into an Open Diff-like state? (Inside wheel whelspin) That being said... we need another option for the Diffs. I was one of the cars affected by the wavetrac failure at Nationals. I put my oem diff back in to finish the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagerz Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The Brembos are adequate. You just need to cool them properly, run the right fluid, and there are a few other tricks. I was pleasantly surprised at how well the Brembos held up compared to other "stock Brembo" configurations I have driven. That being said... we need another option for the Diffs. I was one of the cars affected by the wavetrac failure at Nationals. I put my oem diff back in to finish the season... What is the right fluid? ATE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laze1 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 That is what I use with no problems...ATE I also use it in the Clutch... The Brembos are adequate. You just need to cool them properly, run the right fluid, and there are a few other tricks. I was pleasantly surprised at how well the Brembos held up compared to other "stock Brembo" configurations I have driven. That being said... we need another option for the Diffs. I was one of the cars affected by the wavetrac failure at Nationals. I put my oem diff back in to finish the season... What is the right fluid? ATE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagerz Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Did it Blow Up/melt/cook or just go into an Open Diff-like state? (Inside wheel whelspin) That being said... we need another option for the Diffs. I was one of the cars affected by the wavetrac failure at Nationals. I put my oem diff back in to finish the season I believe you posted some pics of that cooler, it looked like a really solid setup. How did your wavetrac fail? Seems like a very unreliable diff. Also it increases the cost of entry into specZ by requiring a cooling system. I am sticking with the VLSD until I get some competition in my region that uses the wavetrac. Hopefully another diff like the carbonetic will become legal soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laze1 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Mine has not blown up yet...but that is because I have an effective cooler...and run expensive as shiate Motul diff fluid but I still get what I think is wheel-spin..but hard to tell at speed. And I don't drive as hard as the National Level drivers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagerz Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Mine has not blown up yet...but that is because I have an effective cooler...and run expensive as shiate Motul diff fluid but I still get what I think is wheel-spin..but hard to tell at speed. And I don't drive as hard as the National Level drivers... Ah ok. I misread the post and thought it was yours that blew up but I see it was Petemac who lost his wavetrac at the nationals. I wonder if wavetrac/Nissan is helping with the replacements either through a discount or warranty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laze1 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Warrenty...send it back to Wavetrac and they will rebuild/refurbish it. I know for a fact a couple of drivers have done that ...for free (exculding shipping) Any spec changes made will be installed in your unit. I plan to do that to mine in a week of so...just the Diff unit, NOT the entire Pumpkin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esr Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Can anyone explain the difference between the options available from nismo as listed on the 2013 rule book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sig11 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Can anyone explain the difference between the options available from nismo as listed on the 2013 rule book. 38420-SS370 is the Wavetrac diff 38420-RS141 is the older NISMO 1.5 way clutch type diff I can't decide which to go with... I've heard good things about the NISMO diff and bad things about the Wavetrac but with adequate cooling maybe the Wavetrac's problems aren't so severe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laze1 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Hey, one of the local racers in my area has a used Nismo diff for sale for ~$850 (diff only/no houseing/axels/etc) pm me for details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esr Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Will it need cooling? Hey, one of the local racers in my area has a used Nismo diff for sale for ~$850 (diff only/no houseing/axels/etc) pm me for details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laze1 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I honestly don't know...so I will say "YES" because most race cars should have a diff cooler...However I DO NOT beleive the previous owner/racer used a cooling. PM me for details if you wanna talk directly to the horse he is kinda shy and doesn't like this new-fangled thing called the internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxercask Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I got a Nismo unit from a guy in Cali and I love it. I have never used a Wavetrac, but I had a Quaife and that thing is garbage compared to the Nismo. The Nismo eliminated ALL of my wheel spin issues coming out of the corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotts300 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I got a Nismo unit from a guy in Cali and I love it. I have never used a Wavetrac, but I had a Quaife and that thing is garbage compared to the Nismo. The Nismo eliminated ALL of my wheel spin issues coming out of the corners. What guy? Can I buy it back? ESR/Rafael - interested in my WaveTrac? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laze1 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Scott, I know where you can get another NISMO Diff But it is gonna cost you...you being the BIG TROPHY Winner and all that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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