larsend Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 From the rules 7.14 Suspension 7.14.3 Ford Racing M-5638-B or M-5638-C front lower control arm bushings are permitted. Here's the parts and how to save half.......... 2005-2013 MUSTANG COMPETITION FRONT BUSHING KIT M-5638-C Kit Suggested Retail Price $589.00 (my cost $412.50) • Low drag front lower control arm bushing kit for 2005-2013 Mustang • Original equipment on 2013 Mustang Cobra Jet and Mustang Boss 302S • Fits Mustang Boss 302R, FR500C, FR500S, 2005-2013 Mustang GT, V-6, Shelby GT-500 and 2011-2012 Mustang Boss 302 • Allows wider range of caster adjustment than stock. • Smaller and lighter that production bushings – ideal for header access • Low drag removes the bushing as a damping force allowing suspension to be better “dialed-in through shock tuning • Increased stiffness for minimal suspension deflection • Increased steering response • Includes Delron/Aluminum bushing with mounting bracket • Recommended for off-road use FR500C BUSHING KIT, FRONT M-5638-B Suggested Retail Price $43.95 (my cost 43.10) • Service replacement for Mustang FR500C Race Car M-FR500-C • Fits lower control arm M-3075-R • Use with FR500C caster adjuster M-3052-R1 Mustang Caster Adjuster FR part Number M-3052-R1 (this is the bracket only); the FR500C, Boss 302R and Boss 302S used this but it’s no longer available from Ford Racing. There are however two left on eBay for $220.00 FR500C CASTER ADJUSTER • Service replacement for Mustang FR500C Race Car M-FR500-C • Allows for the adjustment of caster on FR500C • FR500C Front Bushing Kit required M-5638-B • Bushing kit not included with caster adjusters So for $220.00 plus the bushings $43.95 you would have the M-5638-C Kit for half price. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-RACING-MUSTANG-FR500C-CASTER-ADJUSTERS-M-3052-R1-/370227914125?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item56334da58d&vxp=mtr Hope this helps someone save a few bucks. Kind of strange Ford Racing no longer has the cheaper option available……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocB Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Are the bushings the same in both kits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larsend Posted February 3, 2013 Author Share Posted February 3, 2013 Mustang Caster Adjuster FR part Number M-3052-R1 (the part on Ebay/no longer avilable from FR) does not have the bushings, it requires bushing kit M-5638-B (Just the bushings). The complete kit is M-5638-C Mustang Competition Front Bushing Kit M-5638-C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocB Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Thanks for the FYI and explaination. I understand. We have been getting ready to do the bushing upgrade. I know what the bushings in the -C kit look like, it is just that I have never seen the -B (FR500C) bushing kit for comparison. From your posted pics, the two bushings on the left in both kits look different, but it is hard to tell what material these bushings in the -B is made from. Could you please comment on these bushings in the -B kit and their material of construction? Bruno..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilson7 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 B is urethane bushings and C is delrin bushings. Big difference between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocB Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I am planning on installing the -C bushings, but am a little disappointed that all the bushings will not be hard. Suspension set-up and alignment are very important to me, and I have learned that rubber and poly are not the best for my application. In the -C kit, why do you think the rear bushings are urethane and not Delrin like the front? Is there a reason why one would want some "give" at the rear of the LCA? Bruno..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshallmosty Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I am planning on installing the -C bushings, but am a little disappointed that all the bushings will not be hard.Suspension set-up and alignment are very important to me, and I have learned that rubber and poly are not the best for my application. In the -C kit, why do you think the rear bushings are urethane and not Delrin like the front? Is there a reason why one would want some "give" at the rear of the LCA? Bruno..... You don't want delrin in the back primarily due to the arc length differencese between the upper 3rd link and the lower control arms. That creates roll bind that was so prevalent in the '79-'04 Mustang 4-link suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocB Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Marshall, we are talking about the front and rear bushings on a Front Lower Control Arm, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshallmosty Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Marshall, we are talking about the front and rear bushings on a Front Lower Control Arm, correct? If that's the case, nevermind... My post was for the rear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehagen Racing Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 We believe it has more to do with overall cost than anything else. It probably would have been cost prohibitive for the front/rear bushing to be delrin as well. The only bushings that had issue previously was the front/front and this is now delrin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhdinyuma Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Can anyone provide a little help with installing these? I can't find any install info anywhere. Specifically, Any tips on removing the rear bushing, and a photo of the completed install showing the correct mounting of the new bushings on the front and rear of the LCA would help a lot. I am installing on new LCA's with the stock bushings on them. I have a press but just made a mess of the rear bushing and still can't get it to budge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olaaf Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Haha, yeah it’s a little tricky. The rear bushing is hellspawn. I heated mine with a torch and chewed it mostly off with a sawzall until all that was exposed was the knurled sleeve over the inner shaft. This sleeve must be pressed off. What I did was weld 2 pieces of angle to the sleeve and then put it in a press- pressed the inner shaft against the angle on the sleeve and it popped out. I can take a picture over the weekend, but there are 2 ways to install the bushings. The right way, and the way that will fall out when you are on track (ask me how I know). The rear bushing has 2 pieces, slide the little one on first, and then the larger one making sure it’s flange is retained by the bracket, there is nothing else holding it in. The forward delrin bushing has a little offset spacer. The holes on the K-member for the new rear bracket will only line up with the spacer in the right orientation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhdinyuma Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I can take a picture over the weekend, but there are 2 ways to install the bushings. The right way, and the way that will fall out when you are on track (ask me how I know). Doh...That sucks. I was looking at the two bushing pieces and figured that was how they had to be installed or else the whole thing would fall out. Just didn't seem right that that was all that holds them in place. I assume you put the small bushing on first next to the inner part of the shaft on the LCA with the flat part touching the bushing that is installed in the bracket right? In other words, you install the small bushing on the shaft with the concave part first so it touches the LCA and not the bracket. Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olaaf Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 concave part first so it touches the LCA and not the bracket. Thanks... correct, then the bracket will then be able to push in far enough to line up with the holes in the k-member, as long as the delrin spacer is orientated correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhdinyuma Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Perfect...Thanks. I also noticed that the mounting holes in the bracket are different sizes and that the holes in the K-Member are also different. Does the bracket align with the larger of the two holes to the inside of the K-Member which also has the elongated hole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhdinyuma Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Did it look like this when you were pressing it out? This thing doesn't want to budge at all!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhdinyuma Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Whew...Got it out after cutting slits down both sides to loosen it. Does this assembly order look right for the left side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olaaf Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Whew...Got it out after cutting slits down both sides to loosen it. Does this assembly order look right for the left side? that does look right, though i have forgotten about the different sized holes in the bracket, but it really fits only one way once it's centered. I can take a picture tomorrow.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olaaf Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 sorry for the delay, this is my passenger side arm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhdinyuma Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Thank man. I got both sides mocked up today and they look just like that. Your tips definitely helped clear up my confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevepoe Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 sorry for the delay, this is my passenger side arm one thing for sure is your sure going to know if those bolts move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadracebc1 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Can a ball joint removal tool be used to remove and install the front delrin bushings? Thanks in advance for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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