JSG1901 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 NOTE: There were two suggestions for this. I've listed both below. Type Proposal for a new rule Existing rule section (if applicable) Proposed change Post the declared class, hp, tq and weight for all GTS competitors at a race weekend. Reason This information is currently visible on the GTS sticker, but rather than have people snooping around the paddock/grid, just post it. Proposed new wording --------------------------------------------------------------- Type Proposal for a new rule Existing rule section (if applicable) No GTS Sheets maintained or available to view competitors classification sheets: Proposed change NASA should Maintain & Publish GTS Dyno Sheets via Google Documents (or similar) available to be use at impound for protests & classifications. Presently, there is NO self policing procedures in place to compare to trackside wieghts/scales. There are drivers running in this class that leave the real "truly" classed GTS groups in the dust on the straightaways. This can only be achieved by a HP to Weight Ratio Reason There are drivers running in GTS classes that leave the real "truly" & properly classed corresponding GTS groups in the dust on the straightaways. This can only be achieved by a significant HP to Weight Ratio advantage. This is already in place for the TT Classifications. Proposed new wording NASA regional GTS Directors (or designee) shall maintain & publish all current GTS Dyno Classification Sheets. All current GTS race cars and participants must have a current copy of their GTS Dyno Sheet available in their logbooks. NASA shall make all current GTS Classification Sheets available & viewable by all participants via the internet. GTS Directors (o rdesignee) shall maintain hard copies of said documents at all competitive track events to ensure proper GTS classifications, protests & rule compliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Wolfe Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 For Google Docs is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke P. Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 For Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjkasten Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 For. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Graber Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 For Not sure about posting, but ask your Series Director and you shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPower6er Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 For. Post em up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTL Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 For. Doesn't really matter anyway as it's just reading material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minibeast Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 For Mark Bivings - Florida GTS3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKRBMW Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 For Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zabuomar Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 As a hopeful 2014 gts-2 driver next season, I am for this but agree that it doesn't really do much to prevent the issues raised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rokket H. Posted October 15, 2013 Members Share Posted October 15, 2013 For it 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911.racer Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 For. Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvanhouten Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 For. Google docs works great, you just need a system for dealing with people that bring a fresh dyno sheet to the track. BTDT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwjoon Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 For. You probably want to say the group leader should have a hard copy for those challenged using the internets as well as google docs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dweymer Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 For, and I agree on needing to have some way to deal with fresh dyno sheets, it is no secret that our dyno in MA region varied rediculous amounts weekend to weekend(sometimes day to day), so a few of us got on the dyno every event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Waite Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Don't care. Do we really need a rule for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flink Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Seems that it will do more good than harm, so.. for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach H. Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 FOR! also this well help us self police compliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_Eclipse9916 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 For... But it is tough as Donnie said, I dynoed almost every event this season, and it still was scary the change. Went from 213rwhp on friday dynoing for the weekend...after race on saturday, impound dyno (same dyno) said 206rwhp. Good for me it was lower, but what if it was 7rwhp on the opposite direction despite me not touching the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonSLW Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 For. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcdesign Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 For. Tony Colicchio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dweymer Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 It would give us each an idea of the other racers declared HP. However, it will not fix the issue of an unreliable(thus useless) dyno at the track. (getting off topic though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric W. Posted October 18, 2013 Members Share Posted October 18, 2013 I don't think we need a "rule" for this, but am for the public posting of numbers. I already started this for MidAtlantic, mainly so I would have easier access to the files at the track. Also, it should be known that right now, any competitor can goto the director and ask what someone else is running. They arent secret. Prior to an event, I compile a spreadsheet of the current GTS registration list with the HP #s and min. weights. I could make a copy of that and tape it to my trailer or somewhere near registration next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doclouns Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 For Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottbm3 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Sure why not, but it's already on our tech stickers. Just walk up to a car and look at their numbers. No big secrets. -Scott B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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