NickS Posted January 8, 2004 Posted January 8, 2004 http://www.camaromustangchallenge.com/info.html - Nick (Putting his flame suit on) Quote
Adam Ginsberg Posted January 8, 2004 Posted January 8, 2004 Thanks for all your hard work, guys. Quote
cmc79 Posted January 8, 2004 Posted January 8, 2004 How did the 3532lb weight come about? (Not a flame ) Quote
bsim Posted January 8, 2004 Posted January 8, 2004 Probably due to the rules being finalized during the holiday eating binges... Quote
NickS Posted January 8, 2004 Author Posted January 8, 2004 I followed power:weight 230 rwhp @ 3250lbs = 14.13 250 rwhp * 14.13 = 3532lbs - N Quote
B. Lee Posted January 8, 2004 Posted January 8, 2004 I thought the optional Canton oil pan for Mustangs was P/N 15-644. Quote
Adam Ginsberg Posted January 9, 2004 Posted January 9, 2004 A few questions came about regarding the new rules: 1. Bullitt motors. Basically, it's a 4.6L GT motor with a better intake. Section 4 states all 79-95 5.0L Mustangs, and 96-03 4.6L cars are legal, except for the Cobra. Nothing about the Bullitt, or Bullitt parts. 2. 9" bearing ends for an 8.8. Folks are inquiring about using a Bullitt motor, or even a Mach1. My initial reaction was the Bullitt motors aren't legal, nor is the Mach1 ( is a DOHC similar to the Cobra, just not rated as high ). The Bullitt motor is only rated 5-10hp more then a standard GT. Which brings up another point - the '99-current GT motors are now rated @ 260HP. Thats ~35hp more then a stock 5.0L motor. Given the weights, a new Mustang could outrun a 5.0L or early 4.6L car. Anyone else notice this? At first glance, my initial reaction to the 9" bearing ends is they are legal, as long as the resulting rear brake/axle/width setup meets the rules as well. Tony/Nick, can you guys comment on these items? Quote
Greg R. Posted January 9, 2004 Posted January 9, 2004 Brian that is the correct number as you pointed out. Just a typo. Adam, we'll look into the Bullit, Mach 1 engine situation. I see some potential for interesting parts swaps! Greg Robinson CMC #12 Mustang Quote
racercosmo1548534707 Posted January 9, 2004 Posted January 9, 2004 The Mach 1 should clearly not be legal, it's a Cobra engine more or less (more). A Mach 1 actualy makes more power and much more torque than any Cobra except the 2003/2004. Dyno a Bullitt, most of the power over a standard GT is from the exhaust, but give it an extra 50 lbs or something. Adam, here's your 9" axle end rule. It's always been in there.\ 8.32.3. Any commercially available replacement type steel or alloy steel axles may be used. Full floater axles are prohibited. Heavy-duty non-â€C" Clip style axle ends are allowed and recommended. Competitors should carefully select axle ends. Many of the "C" clip eliminator axle ends are designed for street or drag strip use only and cannot withstand the side loads associated with road racing. Quote
B. Lee Posted January 9, 2004 Posted January 9, 2004 The intake on a Bullitt is actually a Cobra intake. Hence, according to rule 8f.13.1. it is prohibited ("...Cobra 4.6 liter, Cobra 5.0 liter, and Cobra R model engines (Ford) and SS/LS1 (GM/Chevrolet) engines or engine components are prohibited.) BTW, if anyone is interested, I have a sweet Bullitt for sale. Quote
racercosmo1548534707 Posted January 9, 2004 Posted January 9, 2004 A Bullitt intake is not a Cobra intake. It is different than the standard GT, but the only commonality with the Cobra intake is that it allows air to enter the engine. Quote
B. Lee Posted January 9, 2004 Posted January 9, 2004 I must be getting senile due to lack of racing!!! Good catch Cosmo. I'll know who to look out for on the track and in impound Quote
Tony G Posted January 9, 2004 Posted January 9, 2004 Update: Very good questions...better answers. No Mach 1 allowed. No Bullit allowed. 99 stock Gt and up 4.6L do have more power, but will still Dyno at 230 or less..I've tried it. Now just try keeping the modular alive..that's a whole other thing. Good questions guys! Tony Guaglione Quote
WhiteLX Posted March 24, 2004 Posted March 24, 2004 What's the ruling on aftermarket balljoints and adjustable length upper control arms for Mustangs? Quote
Tony G Posted March 24, 2004 Posted March 24, 2004 You can use upper control arms of your choice,but they cannot be adjustable. Ball joints : I use stock replacements..are you talking about the steeda ones? Tony Quote
WhiteLX Posted March 24, 2004 Posted March 24, 2004 Ball joints : ...are you talking about the steeda ones? Tony Yes I am, can I use them or will I have to use stock ball joints? Quote
Tony G Posted March 24, 2004 Posted March 24, 2004 You cannot use the Steeda ones since they have a different height on them,but better yet use the stock ball joints and use a bumpsteer kit. This way you can adjust your steering geometry to perfection, and you would not need the balljoints anymore. Thanks for asking, better to ask first then to guess and get the big DQ because you were not sure. Remember there are no stupid questions! Carry on. Tony Quote
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