Interested in Racing, Few Questions

[BlackHawk]

My dad and I (17) are currently looking into a couple series that run with Nasa to start racing in (from 7yrs racing shifter karts), the Toyo 911 Cup and the CMC.

 

Building a Camaro would obviously be alot cheaper, $15,000 vs. $50K. But once you buy the car how much will you spend in a season to stay upfront? Or is it just the usual tires, fuel, fluids, ect?

 

What times are you guys running at tracks like Buttonwillow? I know the Toyo 911s were about 2min 8sec with the faster new Porsches under 2min.

 

And my last question, do the engines, suspension, transmission, ect have to remain stock?

 

Thanks for you time!!!

[bsim]

Building a Camaro would obviously be alot cheaper, $15,000 vs. $50K. But once you buy the car how much will you spend in a season to stay upfront? Or is it just the usual tires, fuel, fluids, ect?

OR, you could buy my CMC car all ready to go for a lot less than that. But, in regards to the question:

 

Unless something breaks, it's gas, tires, and brakes. There's another thread in here regarding weekend/yearly costs, check it out. Basically, 1 set of tires last a season, and brakes depend on the setup you have. Usually a season on rotors, and 1-2 weekends on front pads. Rears can last all year.

What times are you guys running at tracks like Buttonwillow? I know the Toyo 911s were about 2min 8sec with the faster new Porsches under 2min.

CMC cars average around 2:12-2:14 on BW #1.

 

And my last question, do the engines, suspension, transmission, ect have to remain stock?

Engines - yes, trans - yes, suspension - no (with an asterisk). Check the rules regarding suspensions, but usually, as long as th estock mounting points are retained, and stock dimensions are retained, you're good. All of these to keep the CMC costs down.

 

If you want to get crazy, move on over to AI. That 50k for a 911 could be well spent on a front running AI car too.

[bsim]

Here's the thread:

 

Cost Thread

[Lady in Nomex]

If this is the fast young guy in the V6 3rd gen Camaro I had the pleasure of instructing at Thunderhill, you belong in CMC! If I remember right you live not too far from Thunderhill, why don't you come and hang out with us this weekend for our races! I'm #37 3rd gen Navy blue TA with the green geckos all over it! Someone usually has a passenger seat and would be willing to give you a ride.

[BlackHawk]

If this is the fast young guy in the V6 3rd gen Camaro I had the pleasure of instructing at Thunderhill, you belong in CMC! If I remember right you live not too far from Thunderhill, why don't you come and hang out with us this weekend for our races! I'm #37 3rd gen Navy blue TA with the green geckos all over it! Someone usually has a passenger seat and would be willing to give you a ride.

 

No, that's me! I think I am leaning more towards a Porsche 911, alot faster!

[Lady in Nomex]

Blackhawk, come and hang with us, you'll see why we are the fastest growing group in NASA!

[bsim]

You'll find that when you're racing, it's not how fast you go - it's the speed differentials in the class. Let me tell ya - it's not fun to run sub 2 minute laps if you're the only one doing it. Might as well just run lapping days.

 

Now, put 20 cars on the track that are all running within 2 seconds of each other - THAT'S where the fun is.

 

You'll see....

[BlackHawk]

I will definately come check out both series before I decide, The Toyo 911 Cup has at least 10 cars at every race though.

 

Will CMC be racing at the end of May at Thunderhill? Thanks!

[Lady in Nomex]

The CMC races are at Thunderhill this weekend, early June is Buttonwillow. We are averaging 10-20 car fields at each event. And growing!