Keith Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I am once again on the weight loss journey with my 4th gen Firebird. I am looking for another 100lbs or so. I guess I'll need a little more now that I have the pleasure of more cage work on my car again... Anyway, having now seen 30 or so CMC cars, it's clear to me that I don't understand the definition of stock dash. What I can rip out of my car and still be CMC legal? Let's assume that I am going to leave the dash pad (the top, flat part) and remove absolutely everything else except the stock gauge cluster. To hide the wiring, I will cut a thin aluminum plate on the face of the dash. What do I have to put back on the car to be legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermac Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I am very interested in this as well. I am building the same car. Pictures would be great. Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 if you stripped the dash down to the outter pad and the steel frame on the back. keep the glove box, and the plastic bezzle for the gage cluster and you should be legal. keep the stock gages unless you replace them. headlamp switch, HVAC switch, radio may be removed. all HVAC ducting and related parts can go along w/ the wiring for any of the above. fairly simple. what are you about to remove your unsure of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermac Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 (edited) What about that big ole piece of plastic in front of the dash board. I have heard some call it a glare reflector. And the braket that runs from one side of the car to the other, also what about the seemingly redundant braket on top of the column? Cody Edited December 28, 2006 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted December 28, 2006 Author Share Posted December 28, 2006 I guess my problem is that seeing a straight piece of aluminum with gauges screwed to it never seemed like "stock dash" to me. Maybe I'm just a dumbass... ...sounds like you just need to maintain the stock dash structure and pad and that's about it... BTW - I removed the glovebox/glovebox door years ago. It sounds like this needs to go back in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Al F. Posted December 28, 2006 Members Share Posted December 28, 2006 The stock dashboard is quite a bit of parts. It is not just the top pad, as it includes the gauge pod(s), glove box(es) and various other odds and ends. Remeber cars in the 60s that didnt have a center console? Thats a dashboard assembly. You can of course modify as neede to fit a cage, or gauges. We've always allowed non-necessary things like vents, glove box doors, a/c panels etc to be removed as long as you dont leave any big gaping holes. Does that help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermac Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Kind of. What about the three specific things I asked about and does anyone have pictures of their dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I guess my problem is that seeing a straight piece of aluminum with gauges screwed to it never seemed like "stock dash" to me. Maybe I'm just a dumbass... ...sounds like you just need to maintain the stock dash structure and pad and that's about it... BTW - I removed the glovebox/glovebox door years ago. It sounds like this needs to go back in? since the stock gauge(s) in a 4th gen is a single unit and the rules allow the replacing of gauge's (8.9.5) , i removed my cluster and replaced it. accually, my car did not come w/ a dash, so i had little to work w/. i think the glove box door should remain, otherwise, there will be a big hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 What about that big ole piece of plastic in front of the dash board. I have heard some call it a glare reflector. And the braket that runs from one side of the car to the other, also what about the seemingly redundant braket on top of the column? Cody yes, the stock plastic panal between the windshield and the dash must stay. however i would like to see the rules allow us to remove this if possible. these get very brittle once more than a few years old and crack really easily. once they crack they are hard to get to stay in place. i've seen them fly out durring a race. the driver had to hot pit in order to get it out of the car. they are also very costly to replace. the metal frame of the dash must stay. its part of the dash. also, you will need it in the car as it keeps the dash attached to the car. i wouldnt see the dash staying in one piece very long w/ it removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 i have 2 pics i could send. hit me w/ an addy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y5e06 Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 i think the glove box door should remain, otherwise, there will be a big hole. You can of course modify as neede to fit a cage, or gauges. We've always allowed non-necessary things like vents, glove box doors, a/c panels etc to be removed as long as you dont leave any big gaping holes. well, which is it? sounds to me the precident has been set before to allow removal of the glove box. I did that long ago and replaced with an aluminum panel. difficult, but visable here: http://www.vilipend.com/~frrax/view_photo.php?full=1&set_albumName=interior&id=CMC_020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllZWay Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 My dash is fairly complete. The original switches are removed and filled with a plastic panel. I still have my glove box door. The only picture I have of the dash is this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 CMC build pics here. no dash pics. http://www.vilipend.com/~frrax/view_album.php?set_albumName=CMC-Build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermac Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Thanks for the Pics. Those are both great looking cars. What do they weigh? Do you guys run SFC? How long did it take to build your cars? Glenn; How does your car do for heat with your front end like that? Morgan; Did you say you rattle canned you interior, if so how is it holding up? Thanks for the info Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady in Nomex Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Here's my car - you can see the accusump pull mounted on the passenger side. I'll see if I can get a shot of the dash with gauges mounted in the aluminum panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Thanks for the Pics. Those are both great looking cars. What do they weigh? Do you guys run SFC? How long did it take to build your cars? Glenn; How does your car do for heat with your front end like that? Morgan; Did you say you rattle canned you interior, if so how is it holding up? Thanks for the info Cody my car is 3050 full of fuel w/out driver. my car had subframe connectors on it when i bought it. i'vethought of cutting them off, but they workout nice as jacking points and skid plates. i had to add the stock air dam back on. later i found out my cooling issue and havent went back to the front breather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y5e06 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Yes, I used spray paint on mine. I wish I hadn't, or at least found a good tough one to use. Epoxy based paint would have been the way to go. it scuffs easy. Also, it gets soft and dirt sticks to the areas along the tunnel where the exhaust runs, doesn't look that great. I have subframes on mine, unlike the cage they are 1 5/8" cromoly as Glenn mentioned they're aweful nice for jacking rails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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