Glenn Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 pricing shocks i noticed this: http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/Susptabl.jsp?autoMake=Chevrolet&autoModel=Camaro&autoYear=2002&autoModClar=&brand=KONI factory Koni fronts are no longer under the price limit. cheaper source? Quote
King Matt1548534716 Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 So if you can find these shocks for $699, they are legal, but if they are $701 they are illegal? More important, if the retail price has gone over the limit, does this make them illegal for anyone who bought them at the lower price? If not, it is really unfair to prevent a new person from using the exact same parts existing cars are running. Quote
Members Al F. Posted April 3, 2007 Members Posted April 3, 2007 You're exactly right Matt Glenn, thanks for pointing this out. As you all may or may not know, the Koni double for the 4th gen was the model used to set the price limit...several years ago. We'll revisit this. In the meantime, if your car was legal yesterday its still legal. If you're thinking about going out and buying new shocks, you might want to hold off a bit. Quote
King Matt1548534716 Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 In the meantime, if your car was legal yesterday its still legal. If you're thinking about going out and buying new shocks, you might want to hold off a bit. So a 4th Gen built last month or last year with shocks that cost $699 is legal, yet if someone needs to buy shocks today at $701, they should hold off? Please explain that, because it makes no sense to me. Quote
FBody383 Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 http://www.ltbmotorsports.com/ I have no affiliation with these guys; found them on a google search. Said they would do $750 delivered for a front set Koni DA for 02 Camaro like Glenn asked about. My guess is the issue is that the rule isn't inflation adjusted but the cost of parts certainly is. I'm not sure it makes sense to absolutely tie the rule to the MSRP of a specific product, but that sounds like the basis of the rule in the first place. I'll have to add another $50-$100 to the car budget... Quote
Keith Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Thinking out loud - I don't think there are many different shocks being used in CMC at the moment. Would it make sense to, say, leave the cost rule (regardless of whether we adjust the amount) and then augment it by saying that the following shocks are also permitted: Koni DA Koni SA Bilstein HD AGX etc. etc. I don't know if this make sense in text so I'll try to say it another way. Shocks Shocks are permitted as long as they retail for $xxx or less or are on the following list: Koni DA Koni SA Bilstein HD AGX (or whatever else is being used) I think this could address what we are trying to do with this rule. ..just a thought... Quote
Glenn Posted April 3, 2007 Author Posted April 3, 2007 a good read from back in 2005. http://www.camaromustangchallenge.com/cmcbb/viewtopic.php?t=1364&highlight=700+shock Quote
AllZWay Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Hey Glenn... you did a pretty good job forcasting the future. Just off a few bucks. Quote
mitchntx1548534714 Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 A 93 Mustang can get the same shock for under $200 each from the same site. Yet another advantage the Mustang has over the 4th gen. The 4th gen definitely needs rules relief in this area. Hey James, pass the popcorn ... Quote
Richard Pryor1548534703 Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 I have three sets for 4th gen F bodies of the Koni DA shocks...fronts and rears for $600 for a complete car set of four...these were used and then sent for complete rebuilds last year and never used since..better than new....and since these are the old "legal" shocks they still meet the rules...RP Quote
GT4Point6 Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 A 93 Mustang can get the same shock for under $200 each from the same site. Yet another advantage the Mustang has over the 4th gen. Probably due to the coil over set up the 4th gens have. Quote
mitchntx1548534714 Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 I have three sets for 4th gen F bodies of the Koni DA shocks...fronts and rears for $600 for a complete car set of four...these were used and then sent for complete rebuilds last year and never used since..better than new....and since these are the old "legal" shocks they still meet the rules...RP I'm thinking Motons ... Quote
Members Al F. Posted April 4, 2007 Members Posted April 4, 2007 Back when this rule was put into place we expected the actual dollar amount would need to change every now and again. Its been just over two seasons, so its about time. Guess these hadnt really changed in so long we got a little complacent. We'll take the oportunity to see if there isnt a more elegant way of achieving the same goal, but otherwise we'll just re-set the limit based on the benchmark: Koni doubles for the front of 4th gens. Quote
Tony G Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 Yes they are still legal. And please, no one needs to jump to any conclusions here. So yes they are legal,and we update at the end of the year anyway. So this thread needs to stop right here right now. Next thread please, Tony Guaglione Quote
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