Question About Seat Belt Requirements for Vintage Cars

[cjhudson87]

Hello,

 

I hope it’s ok that I just jump right in and post (I didn’t see a “Forum Rules” section saying I shouldn’t). I have an early year production 1968 Ford Mustang that only came with lap belts, and I would like to do my first HPDE event, most likely with NASA’s NorCal region, sometime this Spring. I have read the CCR and my understanding is that without an OEM installed and YOM date-coded three point belt system, that I would need to install a 5-point racing harness, which would then require an appropriate racing seat and minimum 4-point roll bar (stock belt, stock seat/race belt, race seat). While I definitely understand that all of these things are good ideas anyway, I just want to make sure that I am properly understanding the requirement, and that there isn’t a common work-around for vintage cars that I am just unaware of.
 

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. 

Edited December 27, 2019 by cjhudson87
Trying to clarify my post.

[Lucid Moments]

Hey sorry you haven't gotten an answer.  My interpretation of the rules is the same as yours, and I don't know of any work-arounds.  Honestly my suggestion is to not put your classic car on the track.  NASA runs a fantastic program and is generally very safe, but the track environment is inherently dangerous and cars built 50 years ago and more just are not anywhere near as safe in an accident as a more modern car.  They also can cost a whole lot more to fix in case of an incident.

[cjhudson87]

4 hours ago, Lucid Moments said:

Hey sorry you haven't gotten an answer.  My interpretation of the rules is the same as yours, and I don't know of any work-arounds.  Honestly my suggestion is to not put your classic car on the track.  NASA runs a fantastic program and is generally very safe, but the track environment is inherently dangerous and cars built 50 years ago and more just are not anywhere near as safe in an accident as a more modern car.  They also can cost a whole lot more to fix in case of an incident.

Thanks for replying; these forums ARE pretty dead. As a builder/driver, I don’t have much interest in the modern stuff. I’ve built a very capable machine; but NASA might not be the group to go out and learn with. 
 

 

Thanks again! 

[427R]

The forums are normally...slow during the off season.  Things will start to pick up as we get closer to opening day.

[Sydwayz Racing]

Your best bet is to contact a NASA inspector in your region.  

[Aeneas137]

On 12/26/2019 at 8:57 AM, cjhudson87 said:

Hello,

 

I hope it’s ok that I just jump right in and post (I didn’t see a “Forum Rules” section saying I shouldn’t). I have an early year production 1968 Ford Mustang that only came with lap belts, and I would like to do my first HPDE event, most likely with NASA’s NorCal region, sometime this Spring. I have read the CCR and my understanding is that without an OEM installed and YOM date-coded three point belt system, that I would need to install a 5-point racing harness, which would then require an appropriate racing seat and minimum 4-point roll bar (stock belt, stock seat/race belt, race seat). While I definitely understand that all of these things are good ideas anyway, I just want to make sure that I am properly understanding the requirement, and that there isn’t a common work-around for vintage cars that I am just unaware of.
 

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. 

 

I installed a 3-point in my 1968 Mustang coupe. It was fairly easy to install and inexpensive. If you have a concours car that you take to show, it's not appropriate for a NASA event.