Mr. Rabbit Posted November 10, 2006 Posted November 10, 2006 Im in the process of getting my car ready to start competting in TT. I was looking at the tires you are allowed and I see it says you can run DOT slicks such as the Hoosier R6. What about the Hoosier Road Racing Slicks,(first section of tires https://www.hoosiertire.com/rrtire.htm) are those considered NON Dot approved tires which are only allowed in the TTU and TTR. Thanks Quote
Ultimate Altima Posted November 10, 2006 Posted November 10, 2006 You can run'em, but you'd be in TTU/R. If you want to run with cars closer to your speed, I'd suggest staying street legal (ish) and run the R6's. Quote
National Staff Greg G. Posted November 13, 2006 National Staff Posted November 13, 2006 Also, wait for '07 rules before deciding to purchase tires for '07. Quote
Mr. Rabbit Posted November 15, 2006 Author Posted November 15, 2006 ooooh Im hoping that means I can run the Road Race Slicks(obviously with the appropriate points) cause I have the rim sizes to go with those. Ill just sit here and wait patiently, ok ill try my best to be patient Quote
National Staff Greg G. Posted November 15, 2006 National Staff Posted November 15, 2006 There are no plans to allow non-DOT tires in TT or PT (except in TTR). I suppose we could re-consider their use, but the points assessment for them would be pretty brutal. NASA has not wanted us to allow them in these classes to help minimize the "wallet racing". Quote
GooRoo Posted November 20, 2006 Posted November 20, 2006 No harsh criticism here, just a different viewpoint. This change will make my season substantially more expensive... not less. I had planned to run Grand Am Cup Hoosiers (take-offs) or something substantially similar simply because I can get them for $50-100 each, rather than spending $200-300+ for Hoosier R6's or similar. The take-offs also last forever for me. I'll probably have to run something slower than what the guys who can afford the $200-300 a tire can run because otherwise it will be too expensive. Oh well. Just an example of a rule doing exactly the opposite of what was intended. Thankfully I do this for fun, otherwise I'd be cranky. Quote
National Staff Greg G. Posted November 21, 2006 National Staff Posted November 21, 2006 Actually, we could certainly make an exception for GAC Hoosiers, and assess them, because they are not true racing slicks. In fact, they are less sticky than OTC R6's for durability. They will end up being classed with the R6's likely, though, as a point of semantics. Good point. Quote
GooRoo Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 Actually, we could certainly make an exception for GAC Hoosiers, and assess them, because they are not true racing slicks. In fact, they are less sticky than OTC R6's for durability. They will end up being classed with the R6's likely, though, as a point of semantics. Good point. Ah, excellent. Thanks for the clarification. Quote
Mr. Rabbit Posted November 24, 2006 Author Posted November 24, 2006 thats the same reason I had asked. Because I can easily get used slicks from some of the scca guys for almost free, and sometimes for free Also the price for the Hoosier not Dot slicks and the R6's are the same price brand new. I understand how you guys are trying to making it affordable to race, but isnt that the whole point of the points system, because you can do as much as you want or as little as you want to your car and still be competitive because you just gain or loose points. So if someone wants to spend $700 on tires they can but obviously they might be bumped up a class. Not trying to rewrite the rules just giving my thoughts. Quote
kbrew8991 Posted November 29, 2006 Posted November 29, 2006 the rules, as I understand them, focus more on grouping cars together that should turn similar laptimes.... not focus on how much Driver X spent on his car and corresponding setup I'm all for putting the GACs with the R6 if they preform similarly. Not that I'd run them, but its nice to see that option for people to choose what they want (and can get cheaply if that is thier desire) if they preform equally Quote
AU N EGL Posted November 29, 2006 Posted November 29, 2006 Actually, we could certainly make an exception for GAC Hoosiers, and assess them, because they are not true racing slicks. In fact, they are less sticky than OTC R6's for durability. They will end up being classed with the R6's likely, though, as a point of semantics. Good point. Greg from my experiece of running Hoosier, GACs, VRLs and R4, R5 and R6s the R# ( DOT ) tires have more grip then the (NON DOT) GAC or VRL tires. The GAC and VRL are indurance race tires, not sprint high grip tires. Quote
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