alberto_mg Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I was reading through the CCR and noticed that it specifies a 1 liter oil catch can/tank in section 11.4.4. I don't think my current oil catch can is 1 L. I've been Googling around but haven't been able to find anyone that sells one in that size. I see plenty of quarts around. Does anyone know where I might get one? Or should I just get a quart? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 If a quart container is empty, it weights about the same as a 1 liter can, if it is full it kept 1.2 l ( 2.2 l = 1 qt. ???) from going on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Wolfe Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 1 liter = 1.0556 quarts 1 quart = 0.9463 liter A quart container is too small. http://www.paulnoll.com/Oregon/Cooking/number-liters.html Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Whoops! I guess I'm not smarter than a fifth grader. Is it 2.2 kg to a pound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingDog Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Whoops! I guess I'm not smarter than a fifth grader. Is it 2.2 kg to a pound?2.2lb=1kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbrew8991 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 during an annual do you really measure the volume of a catch can to the hundredth of a liter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberto_mg Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 So it sounds like I'm safe with a 1 quart. Now I need to find a spot in my cramped engine bay to fit the thing... Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renntag Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 1 quart = 0.9463 liter A quart container is too small. Looking in my "thinking outside the box" picture book, I discovered that the .0556 qt short fall of using the more readily available qt container could be easily made up by using: A longer feed hose OMG, a second qt container ! Who would have thought ? Now I need to find a spot in my cramped engine bay to fit the thing... Again... why does it need to be in the engine bay? Do you have a trunk area? the extra length of hose will more than make up the volumetric disparity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberto_mg Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 Renn, This is for a mostly street car used in HPDE. I appreciate your input but seriously, if I'm having difficulty finding a spot for a 1 quart catch can fitting 2 of them would be even more difficult. No need to roll your eyes at my post. Running a line that large through a cramped engine bay and a dashboard obstructed firewall with all the factory options is a bit difficult. I would need to drill a hole in my firewall to accomplish that. Plus I would think that the vent wouldn't be allowed to vent in the driver's compartment according to what I understand of the rules. My car is a hatchback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renntag Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No offense but my posting of the "rolling eyes" emoticon was directed at the quoted post that it was connected to. Not yours. If I may ad that it would be easier to make suggestions that would greater benefit you if we had some idea what kind of car you are using. You never mentioned it was a street car. This kind of info is important and helpful. Granted, had I checked the rule you mentioned I could have figured out this was for HPDE, but its still nice to provide as much info as possible. My mentioning using 2 qt containers was in reply to mr wolfe stating that a .0556 qt deficiency was not acceptable. Additionally, the fact that I mentioned routing to the trunk area did not dictate the routing. Correct me if I am wrong, but arent all of your fluid lines routed outside the passenger compartment, under the car? Could you not similarly route an overflow line the same way? As for a vent, you could also run a vent back through the floor out of the passenger compartment. Again, not knowing what model car we are dealing with here....I am sure there are many other suggestions we could make with more information. 11.4.4 Engine BayThere should be no fluid leaks from the engine. A radiator overflow of at least one-liter capacity should be used. Oil breathers or vents shall return the oil to the engine or shall terminate in a catch tank of at least one-liter. All hoses carrying fluids should be in good condition with no cracks or other damage. Again, knowing what type of car you have would be helpful here. Most street cars have overflow bottles or expansion tanks for coolant. They also have PCV systems that recirc back to the intake tract. With these various components in place from the factory, your car should be in compliance already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingDog Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Why not just run an air/oil separator like a Provent (or something homemade) and return the oil to the engine? Then it doesn't matter how large you catch can is because you don't need one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renntag Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Why not just run an air/oil separator like a Provent .... Apparently there is a space issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Wolfe Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No offense but my posting of the "rolling eyes" emoticon was directed at the quoted post that it was connected to. Not yours. My mentioning using 2 qt containers was in reply to mr wolfe stating that a .0556 qt deficiency was not acceptable. I didn't say it wasn't acceptable, I said it was too small. A quart is smaller than a liter. I assumed the earlier post stating a liter container was required was a direct quote from the rules. I don't care enough to confirm. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon dawes Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 [aside:] Don't get sucked into Renntag's sassy resopnses...you'll never get out!!!! But seriously he is just trying to give you ideas and be helpful...in his own twisted fashion. [/aside] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renntag Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 .... I don't care enough to confirm. Fair enough Alan. Thanks for the conversion info fwiw. Also, the fact that Grumpy chimed in and mentioned that at least 'x' volume of fluid was kept off the track surface, shows that every bit of prevention is a great help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberto_mg Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 Understood Renn. Apologies for the confusion and thanks for the input. I'll make it a point of specifying venue in the future. I'm just going to go with a larger 1 quart catch can for now. I have never in the last 6 years (w/ other HPDE orgs) filled my 1 pint Jaz can so even the quart is overkill for me. Somehow I don't think the fraction of a percentage discrepancy with this particular item will keep me off track. If I had recognized how close 1 Quart is to 1 Liter, I would have never even started this thread. I understand the spirit of the rule and volume specification. I wish the governing body would have checked availability of parts before printing 1 Liter vs. 1 Quart. They just don't sell 1 Liter cans in this country. The only option is to make your own. Thats a bit of work for a $30 commercially available product (Summit Racing) that is its equal except for a fraction of a %. I'm rather grumpy on mondays so excuse me if I was a bit touchy. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renntag Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dude. No apologies necessary. I personally think that if you go through tech fine, then your set up must meet the inspectors scrutiny. Honestly I have yet to hear of anyone not passing tech for being .0556 qts shy of a full liter. Contact the chief of tech in your region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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