BADVENM Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Looks like its at Watkins Glen September 22-25, 2016. I know its early but how many CMC'ers are in that area and how many think they may attend? We need four for a championship race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I will be there, and I would guess Joe S. who regularly runs in the NE would attend as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den341548534727 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I will probably attend. The Glen has been one of my bucket list tracks for years. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t500hps Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 One of those tracks I'd love to run but never been......it's a year away but I expect to be there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBody383 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Well... google maps says 24 hours each way from Houston. It's gonna take a year to make that decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADVENM Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Talked to a few Rocky Mountain CMC guys at our race event this past weekend. Sounds like 3 or 4 of them are definitely interested. Anyone run that track before in CMC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suck fumes1548534743 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I want to go but not sure which class I'll run. Either CMC or AI. Brother in law lives in syracuse so it might work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Anyone run that track before in CMC? Yes. I was there in 2011 in CMC1 and ran a 2:20.693. I found results from 9/14 with Spencer Black running a 2:17.462. I would imagine there are more current results from 2015. It was my absolute favorite track. Better than Road America, Road Atlanta, Mid-Ohio, and VIR. The fastest track of all those. In CMC1 tune...I was hitting over 145 mph on the back before the bus stop. First turn was in 4th with a short shift to 5th before turn 2 and WOT all the way up thru the S's. I'd recommend balancing everything you can before that event as any minor vibrations end up being mind numbing due to the speed/rpm. This track seriously makes Hallett feel like an autocross course set up in a Wal-Mart parking lot! Sidney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 They repaved the whole track this year so NE did not have a race event in 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blk96gt Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I would love to do this, but seems like it would suck in my car since I have an overdrive 5th gear and there's not an option to swap the 5th gear out (T45). I've got 3.27's currently which is right at the limit in 4th on the front straight at TWS (~132 MPH CW, 5800 RPM). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t500hps Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I would love to do this, but seems like it would suck in my car since I have an overdrive 5th gear and there's not an option to swap the 5th gear out (T45). I've got 3.27's currently which is right at the limit in 4th on the front straight at TWS (~132 MPH CW, 5800 RPM). I run the same combo and have pulled 140mph at VIR.......not sure what the rpms were. I thought I read this combo maxes out at 142 or 144. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADVENM Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 What would an ideal gear ratio be on this track for a CMC Mustang running a road racing 5th gear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I never hit anything near 145 at the glen. I usually see around 125-130 top speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suck fumes1548534743 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 3:27's and a stock t45 top out at 143 in 4th in a cobra at 7000 rpm. The Gt is a little lower cause it wont rev safely that high. You could try but might end up spitting engine parts all over the track haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t500hps Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I never hit anything near 145 at the glen. I usually see around 125-130 top speed. Those phone based GPS timers sample only once per second and therefore usually don't record your actual highest speed.......but they also rarely show how slow you really were in the corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1548534743 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 The Glen is a must do track, did it in 2014, its a cross between Mid-O and RA. ( have yet to go to VIR ) Elevation changes are challenging and better know your braking zones too, excellent brakes are a must. Its a high RPM track. Well worth the drive, beautiful area to bring and explore with your significant other, after the race that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejf51548534732 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 And Jim got a win at his first trip to Watkins Glen in Sept 2014. Spencer Black is the CMC man to beat at Watkins Glen and turned laps in the upper 2:17's last year. On my 2nd day there, I ran a 2:18.3 with the 5.0 motor, 3:55 rear gears and the road race 5th gear in a T-5 transmission. The AIM solo indicated 129.5 mph as top speed just before bus stop which surprised me .......I thought the front straight would be faster mph's. What a fun track with wide open area into turn one and flat out up through to the bus stop...the predictive timer kept saying that I was getting faster & better in the first half of the track and giving it all back on the 2nd half. I hope I can go again next year! David DeJarnette #678 Mid-Atlantic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADVENM Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 And Jim got a win at his first trip to Watkins Glen in Sept 2014. Spencer Black is the CMC man to beat at Watkins Glen and turned laps in the upper 2:17's last year. On my 2nd day there, I ran a 2:18.3 with the 5.0 motor, 3:55 rear gears and the road race 5th gear in a T-5 transmission. The AIM solo indicated 129.5 mph as top speed just before bus stop which surprised me .......I thought the front straight would be faster mph's. What a fun track with wide open area into turn one and flat out up through to the bus stop...the predictive timer kept saying that I was getting faster & better in the first half of the track and giving it all back on the 2nd half. I hope I can go again next year! David DeJarnette #678 Mid-Atlantic Thanks for the info David. I'm also running 3:55 gears with a road racing 5th. Our AIM on a few tracks has us up to 120 mph, didn't check the tach to see how much room we had left before hitting rev limiter at those speeds. We may have another chance to hit those speeds in a few weeks and I'll check the tach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHISSTC Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I'm also running 3:55 gears with a road racing 5th. You need to verify your rear gears. I thought the 3.55 set was the one I messed up and replaced with the 3.73 set. Either that or I gave you my 3.55 set and I have the 3.73 now. I can't remember any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Anyone run that track before in CMC? In CMC1 tune...I was hitting over 145 mph on the back before the bus stop. First turn was in 4th with a short shift to 5th before turn 2 and WOT all the way up thru the S's.... Sidney I used a formula to get MPH based on RPM, axle ratio, gear ratio, and tire radius. I had a .82 TKO, ran 3.73 rear gears, and 255/16 Toyos. RPM was between 5,000 and 5,500. Just did a google search and found 2 different diameters for 255/16's. Tire Rack lists the 255/16 RA1 at 26.1 inches. Using that size the calculations would be 132 mph at 5,200 and 137 at 5,400. Another Website had 255/16 at 29 inches...that would give the 145 MPH top speed. The 132/137 probably makes more sense for the sub 250HP I was making at the time. Plan accordingly, Sidney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADVENM Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Just curious where you guys and gals are at regarding attending the East Coast Nationals. My teammate and I have to have our vacation request forms in by the end of the month. We're planning on competing and hope that there will be at least 3 more cars to fulfill the 4 car requirement for an east coast CMC championship race. So, can any of you give an update regarding whether or not you'll be competing? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I plan on being there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blk96gt Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Spencer, Have you driven Watkins before with your car? If so, what gearing do you have and do you have to shift to 5th at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I have stock gears in the car 3.27s, I do not shift into 5th anywhere on the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t500hps Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I plan on being there and at least one other mid atlantic guy says he's going too.....hopefully getting 3-5 guys to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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