kbrew8991 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 they might be moving away from using the number stamped on the side, since the tire mfg can really put whatever they want there anyway I'd be interested to see what 5pt and 7pt choices there are... I hope at +5 its not just the ol' RA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loudes13 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 (edited) Sure they are.http://www.scca.com/contentpage.aspx?content=44 Not certain of the actual publish date, but the 2008 SCCA GCR was available last month, and planned changes have been publisized all year in FastTracks. Not true, some items are still 'proposed'. The proposals are there, but not official yet. In SM the 99 shock hat rule isn't finalized, nor are weights official yet. That's racing. Deal with it, Greg and NASA are doing a good job, and we know rules won't change much. Edited December 12, 2007 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom A Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Not true, some items have not been decided yet. The proposals are there, but not official yet. In SM the 99 shock hat rule isn't finalized, nor are weights published yet. That's racing.Whatever. If a handful of items will be coming out in a future fasttrack, BFD. The 2008 SCCA General Competition Rules have been out almost a month, and are available on the SCCA website right here: http://www.scca.com/documents/Club%20Rules/GCR2008.pdf Granted, they are not the "official" rules, and they are not a replacement for the printed book, but at least they have something to work with to build for next year. Unlike us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCraven Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 What are you talking about Allen? I opened up the 2008 SM rules and searched on the 1999 SM shock top hat rules and there is a spec on the top hats which is "from the SCCA 2008 sm 2008 rules pdf" 1999-up cars shall use the bump stops from the Mazdaspeed kit (p/n 000-04-5993-AW) in conjuction with the 19990up stock upper mount assembly consisting of the upper mount (p/n: NC.... etc.) There is a specifications table in the rules with all the Miatas with all the approved weights - the 10:1 CR 1.8L Miata is listed as having to weigh 2425 lbs. Everything in the rules seem official to me, nothing listed as proposals. Even if there are some outstanding items, what would we be talking about? .001% compared to 100%? Joe Craven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piersin Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Any chance you'll allow data acquisition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosm3os Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Any chance you'll allow data acquisition? Are you talking about the rules? Data acquisition is legal in TT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1LapSRT Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Any chance you'll allow data acquisition? Are you talking about the rules? Data acquisition is legal in TT. Only telemetry is illegal.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbrew8991 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 telemetry = beamed back to the pits real time - not allowed datalogging = stored electronically in the car, looked at later - allowed - Ken, who is one of MANY that runs a DL system in TT, including during Nationals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1LapSRT Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 damn...and I didn't even have to look it up... I'm learning.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piersin Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 telemetry = beamed back to the pits real time - not alloweddatalogging = stored electronically in the car, looked at later - allowed - Ken, who is one of MANY that runs a DL system in TT, including during Nationals Oh nice, I thought it wasn't legal. Guess I can call MSD today. Thanks Guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbrew8991 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 telemetry = beamed back to the pits real time - not alloweddatalogging = stored electronically in the car, looked at later - allowed - Ken, who is one of MANY that runs a DL system in TT, including during Nationals Oh nice, I thought it wasn't legal. Guess I can call MSD today. Thanks Guys. make sure you wait and get the latest G2X that has the predictive laptime feature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heeltoer Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 predictive lap timing is going to be a downloadable software upgrade. so older models will be able to take advantage of this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renntag Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I am interested to see how this works out. This could be great benefit for qualifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbrew8991 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I am interested to see how this works out. This could be great benefit for qualifying. what do you think TT is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornswoggler Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 make sure you wait and get the latest G2X that has the predictive laptime feature I believe that is called a traqmate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbrew8991 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 make sure you wait and get the latest G2X that has the predictive laptime feature I believe that is called a traqmate? how sure are you? Traqmate has its advantages, but one of them isn't a readable screen during a session (in comparison) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1LapSRT Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 make sure you wait and get the latest G2X that has the predictive laptime feature I believe that is called a traqmate? how sure are you? Traqmate has its advantages, but one of them isn't a readable screen during a session (in comparison) True on the readable screen.... I have to improve my mounting location, just to be able to set it before a session. It's bright as he11 for about 3 seconds when you turn it on...then it dims and I can't read the screen. It does have the predictive lap times now and also a theoretical best lap time option. It can take all of your "best" segments and find out what time you can run if you could link every segment at your fastest time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornswoggler Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I have the windshield suction cup mount for my traqmate and have been able to see it just fine. (mine is an older display unit, not illuminated) Very cool you guys get this feature too. you'll love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom A Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 So if I was the new rules, where would I be? There are supposed to be less changes than last year, but it is already past when the rules came out for 2007 (which was 3 months later than they should have come out). This is unbelievably frustrating. Who do I need to call and yell at to get them published? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosm3os Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 (which was 3 months later than they should have come out). Wouldn't that be before Nationals? I'd rather they take their time and get them right, then rush them out and then have problems or, worse, have to make mid year changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr PS Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 predictive lap timing is going to be a downloadable software upgrade. so older models will be able to take advantage of this as well. I actually beta tested the feature at Cal Speedway. I believe the official version will be available soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarmPepsi Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 make sure you wait and get the latest G2X that has the predictive laptime feature I believe that is called a traqmate? how sure are you? Traqmate has its advantages, but one of them isn't a readable screen during a session (in comparison) You do know the new screens are much better, and the unit also has a backlight, right? I sent mine in and got the memory doubled, screen done, etc. I love the thing. Now with the more accurate times (instead of .000, .025, .050), its better than the g2x in my book. The qualifying feature is handy, Used it last time out. edit: oh yeah, this post was a hope that i'd show up here, and the rules would be posted. I'll be skipping the first nasa event this year, due to the lack of "GIT R DONE" on the part of the rules committee. Not gonna go out and run a car in some class, then be swapping and changing. Geh, makes me love open track days rather than nasa-organization. Happy holidays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ff2skip Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Thread for '08 rules: http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=19544 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavychevy Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 make sure you wait and get the latest G2X that has the predictive laptime feature I believe that is called a traqmate? how sure are you? Traqmate has its advantages, but one of them isn't a readable screen during a session (in comparison) True on the readable screen.... I have to improve my mounting location, just to be able to set it before a session. It's bright as he11 for about 3 seconds when you turn it on...then it dims and I can't read the screen. It does have the predictive lap times now and also a theoretical best lap time option. It can take all of your "best" segments and find out what time you can run if you could link every segment at your fastest time. How do you do the theoretical best lap thing anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornswoggler Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 How do you do the theoretical best lap thing anyways. Using the traqview software, open your session file and check Segment Analysis using the Setup button. Then from the track map, click segment tools, auto-create segment. Your TBL will now be available from the laps you can select. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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