trhoads Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I have to do it on my car to prevent rear wheel lockup/ yep, same here, and if you don't get it right, the a$$ end gets loose...Turn 4 at Roebling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I wouldn't copy NASCAR driver's shifting technique. And I like NASCAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor57 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 H/T shifting is faster, if you can do it well. How could it not be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trhoads Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 How could it not be? when you don't do it well, and when you try to practice on the track. maybe. I did all my practice on the street, just waited until it was safe, no other cars around, and braked a lot harder, and worked on it. Then went to a private day at TGPR, so no traffic, and worked on it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscguy Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 when you don't do it well, and when you try to practice on the track. maybe. This is the key. For you guys claiming that you can't do it on the street, or you're not 100% about it on track yet, street practice is the ONLY way to perfect it. Heel-toeing is not an on/off switch, there are often subtle differences in each downshift, where you have to rev a little more, a little less, play with the clutch release, etc. By practicing on the street on EVERY shift you train the muscles in your legs and feet to have finer control over what they're doing with the pedals in that type of behavior (two pedals at once, rotating, etc.). 944 guy, you're saying you don't heel-toe, but do rev-match. The rev-matching is the important part of the equation, not the specific technique. In higher HP RWD cars especially, as many have mentioned, you get serious rear wheel lockup if you don't do something to match that trans and engine speed. FWD cars seem more forgiving, but even some of those advance/instructor drivers I've ridden with who don't do it unsettle the car a lot more in those shifting/braking zones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexT Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Only NASCAR driver I saw heal/toe was Boris Said; obvious reasons. Personally, I love rev-matching. I do it pretty much all the time. I'm so used to doing it now that it just happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheap_Thrills Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 944 guy, you're saying you don't heel-toe, but do rev-match. The rev-matching is the important part of the equation, not the specific technique. In higher HP RWD cars especially, as many have mentioned, you get serious rear wheel lockup if you don't do something to match that trans and engine speed. FWD cars seem more forgiving, but even some of those advance/instructor drivers I've ridden with who don't do it unsettle the car a lot more in those shifting/braking zones. I concede I have only driven my lightweight, low HP car at the track, so I can now see it makes sense for you other folks to heel-toe. I retract my statement, your honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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