lee33lyn Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 What are my options for coil overs for my 95 Z. I'm putting my car back together so I'll have alot of questions coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Al F. Posted December 5, 2012 Members Share Posted December 5, 2012 Most roundy round shops sell coil over adapter kits that can be used to make essentially any shock that is the right length and top/bottom mount style work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 The OEM set-up is a coilover. You can sleeve an OEM replacement shock w/ a $40 sleeve kit, you can use Unbalanced Engineering's Bilstien shocks or you can use AST's CMC 4th gen package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee33lyn Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 when I bought the car it had Bilstein shocks with lowering springs on it. I know the springs won't work on the track but would like to use the shocks. I've got a guy that could revalve them for the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cozog1548534733 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Global West sells a coil over kit too, but it's pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Ground Control as well. I used these w/ great results: http://www.daymotorsports.com/proddisp.php?ln=13359&product=AFCO+R+%26+S+SERIES+-+BIG+BODY+STEEL+COIL-OVER+KIT&partnumber=AFC-20125A&description=Kit+includes+spring+seat%2C+adjuster+nut%2C+sleeve+%285+or+7+in.%29+snap+ring%2C+pin+and+t I think a 5" long sleeve will work. I used the 7's if I remember right. The snapring on the shock may need to be filed down some to allow the sleeve to fit over. I know I had to do this for the Koni's I did once. I think the price is for a pair, but call to be sure. Any local dirt track shop will have this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBody383 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Koni Spring Perch Sleeves Spring Perch Sleeve/Adjusting Ring Price I think this is what I used; I just let the top of the spring ride on the upper mount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve91T Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Dang, if its that cheap, I might go ahead and buy a pair. What springs do you need to buy then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBody383 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Dang, if its that cheap, I might go ahead and buy a pair. What springs do you need to buy then?I am currently using a 10" free length 2.5 ID spring from HERE. The first pair I had was 8" and I think I like the longer ones a little better. Find the couple of threads on rates for 4th gen; I think it's been said roughly 750/250; I'm 700/225 now and think I want to go up some. Ask around, most of the setups I've seen in Texas use the top spring hat too and I don't. But then again, I'm just a mid-pack slacker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I fyou use the sleeve kit as designed, use a 8" spring (2.5" ID). 700 rates work well. I'm on 800's now and am likely going back to the 700's. Moving to the 800's and 275 17 tire was too much of a change. 800's may work w/ 16's, but I don't like them w/ the 17's. Your driving ability and style will be what dictates what rear rate you need. The goal is to balance the car. As you get faster, you will want the rear more stiff. It is easier to make quick changes at the track on the rear of the car. Spring rates and sway bars are the big ones. Wheel spacers and other things will fine tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Algozine Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It is easier to make quick changes at the track on the rear of the car. Spring rates and sway bars are the big ones. Wheel spacers and other things will fine tune. So would a simple and inexpensive way to change the wedge !! Are you kidding me? I thought that adjustments in between sessions are discouraged, (unless you have the time and money for a separate test day). Wouldn't it be great to easily and very inexpensively raise the right rear spring 1/2" once all these changes are made in order to balance the corner weight, also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It is easier to make quick changes at the track on the rear of the car. Spring rates and sway bars are the big ones. Wheel spacers and other things will fine tune. So would a simple and inexpensive way to change the wedge !! Are you kidding me? I thought that adjustments in between sessions are discouraged, (unless you have the time and money for a separate test day). Wouldn't it be great to easily and very inexpensively raise the right rear spring 1/2" once all these changes are made in order to balance the corner weight, also? Isn't there a thread somewhere about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Algozine Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It is easier to make quick changes at the track on the rear of the car. Spring rates and sway bars are the big ones. Wheel spacers and other things will fine tune. So would a simple and inexpensive way to change the wedge !! Are you kidding me? I thought that adjustments in between sessions are discouraged, (unless you have the time and money for a separate test day). Wouldn't it be great to easily and very inexpensively raise the right rear spring 1/2" once all these changes are made in order to balance the corner weight, also? Isn't there a thread somewhere about this? I seem to think there was something about this somewhere ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den341548534727 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I know, I have a great idea! lets start a thread to get everyones opinion on threaded spring adjusters or torque arms for mustangs..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve91T Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 So 700# front and 225# rears? 8" long 2.5" inner diameter front springs. What size pigtail for the rears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBody383 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 So would a simple and inexpensive way to change the wedge !! Set up the car so I don't have to change. - Tell me how. - What do you want to know? Is she running loose or tight? A turn here, take some wedge out, we'll win some races. - I can't do that. I don't know what the hell you're talking about. How do you mean that? - I don't know much about cars. Neither does any other driver. - No, I really don't know. A turn here? A wedge there? I don't know. How can that be? - They told me to get in a car and drive. Steve91T... doncha just love CMC? Tape measure said 11" - 5 1/2 OD pigtails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 So 700# front and 225# rears? 8" long 2.5" inner diameter front springs. What size pigtail for the rears? 11" in those rates. 12" if you go softer. Use the oem upper spring rubber to help set ride height to how you want it. There are 3 different ones used on 4th gens fro. 93-02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 So 700# front and 225# rears? 8" long 2.5" inner diameter front springs. What size pigtail for the rears? 11" in those rates. 12" if you go softer. Use the oem upper spring rubber to help set ride height to how you want it. There are 3 different ones used on 4th gens fro. 93-02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee33lyn Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 What is used in the rear to adjust height? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 What is used in the rear to adjust height? Spring free length, spacers, spring rubbers. an 11" spring in the 225-250 range will get you pretty much where you want to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee33lyn Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 My head is starting to spin! Good info though! I just don't wanna speed money on the wrong parts. Been there, done that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermac Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Koni Double adjust 750 front 225 rears 32mm front 19mm rear you will be in the hunt. I guarantee it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve91T Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I need some help. I bought the AFCO coil over kit to use with my Koni adjustable shocks. My question is about the snap ring. Here is a before and after shot. So, the Koni snap ring is square. The AFCO snap ring is much beefier, but round. So, using the square snap ring works, but I'm just afraid of the threaded sleeve slipping over the snap ring, which would be disastrous at speed. Any help will be appreciated. I'm trying to get the car buttoned up tonight. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Al F. Posted January 22, 2013 Members Share Posted January 22, 2013 How far out does the square ring stick out? I'm assuming you dont want to use the round one because its thickness is more than the groove so it doesnt seat right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I have used a file and filed down the Koni square ring so that the snapring will fit inside the sleeve. What matters is will the ring sit down inside the sleeve )either one). If it will, it can't spread and come out of the groove and allow the sleeve to slide down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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