tacovini Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Matt, Howsabout refocusing your energy on the upcoming Hallett event where all the folks from Central America will be training for the upcoming Nationals? -=- Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST#97 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Matt,Howsabout refocusing your energy on the upcoming Hallett event where all the folks from Central America will be training for the upcoming Nationals? -=- Todd Ok Dad.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nape Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 So 30-40k in motors for a weekend isn't insane? $100k for a built AI car...? It's just like any other racing. The people who have the money will spend it and those who don't will do without. I didn't used to get it at all and now I just live with it. This isn't Spec Miata, so hopefully ingenuity and effort can win over cubic dollars. A bigger rule book doesn't necessarily make racing cheaper. SM and NASCAR are prime examples. I like our skinny little rulebook. What do you do when they have ABS and you don't? Smile if you beat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 We already have cars near that $100,000 figure and anyone spending 30 to 40K a weekend on engines needs to take a hard look at the rules again. The rules in AI just don't require stupid expensive engines. A do-it-yourselfer can build a motor for less than $2,500 and an engine builder doing all the work can do it for less than $10,000. However, the point that no one has built a car to fully exploit the rules still stands. Sidney AI #64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST#97 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 However, the point that no one has built a car to fully exploit the rules still stands. Sidney AI #64 I decided to start trying....but something to do with not having enough money is holding me back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Algozine Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 However, the point that no one has built a car to fully exploit the rules still stands. Sidney AI #64 I decided to start trying....but something to do with not having enough money is holding me back! You guys always find a way to suck me in.... Cars have been built to the edge of the rules, or more appropriately the edge of the intent of the rules. However, very little has been done to exploit any and all gaps in the existing rules. Which I think, that most will agree, by having a small rule book and not having a statement such as," only mods listed or addressed in this rule set are legal, any mods not detailed are illegal," leaves the door open. Without such a statement and having a small rule set, the grey area is pretty large. But in the end of the day, anything outside the standard needs to be approved by JWL and the other directors, so theres the catch all. I didn't crawl all over Pat L.'s car at the Nationals, but it looked liked nearly everything that is legal, and widely accepted, had been done on that car. Including the LS1 swap. I'm sure there are other car's, as well. There is no spending limit on your car or equipment. I've seen success with big money, very little money, and everything in between. Give me another $20k for my car and I'll gladlly spend it. However, I wouldn't gaurantee that I'll be faster,....but I'd be happy to spend the money and find out. Anyone looking to complete an experiment on how spending money effects the out come? I'll gladly be a test subject, as long as I'm on the spending side, and not the control group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nape Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Which I think, that most will agree, by having a small rule book and not having a statement such as," only mods listed or addressed in this rule set are legal, any mods not detailed are illegal," leaves the door open. I'm really glad our rules are not that way. If I wanted to race under that ruleset, I would've built a CMC or ASedan car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff F Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Give me another $20k for my car and I'll gladlly spend it. However, I wouldn't gaurantee that I'll be fasterGive me $20K, and I'll absolutely guarantee mine will go faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racercosmo Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Give me $20,000, and I won't care if I go faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWL Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Give me $20k and I guarantee you'll be faster. I'll include unlimited "competition yellows" if you end up falling behind and "competition blacks" for everyone but you to even the playing field. I'll even throw in a super fast transponder and "special" qualifying for everyone else with a pace car. (Kidding with all this, of course) As for the OEM ABS question, it can't be a BMW, Horch, Skoda, or any other Euro ABS because we've defined OEM as the big 3 with no exceptions. So, you can quit hacking up perfectly good M5's just for the ABS brains unless of course you get off on that sort of thing and have more money than God or Tom Vu. -JWL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizlbits Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Horch? Tom Vu? Enlighten me o' great one! I guess I'll have to put the M5 back together. Damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tornado Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I just wanted to say this has been one long thread. I expect to see at least 4-5 of these next year in AI at least. Really the cost to get one of these to AI specs and really well setup you could do for about $30k cheaper is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWL Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9rkyyzoqI8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pederb Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 The Audi emblem has four overlapping rings that represent the Auto Union. The Audi emblem symbolizes Audi amalgamation of Audi with DKW, Horch and Wanderer: the first ring represents Audi, the second represents DKW, third is Horch, and the fourth and last ring Wanderer. August Horch is also the founder of Audi 1910 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizlbits Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Now that is bringing the tech, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacovini Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I've raced with a few guys who could represent the 4th ring, the Wanderer. <> Thanks for the edjumacation Peder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWL Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Yikes. I think I just horched after that joke. -JWL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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